Tomás Ó Sé

And they actually had, not only had they brilliant players, but the players that used to come in over time.

John Small, for example, wasn't there at the very start, but he came in.

The players that were actually coming in were great players.

but they were coupled and mixed with the soldiers that were there, the McCarthy's from the very start.

Whereas now there's none of the main players there.

They're all starting afresh and the leadership is probably lacking.

You've Khan still up there.

You know, you have Costolo.

You have a few of them still around.

You've Kilkenny still around at this, but it's a completely, they were extremely, you looked at the, at the old Dublin team, their restarts were always on point.

That's weakened.

Their defense was, uh,

Always, always so disciplined, effective, organized.

Kino Sullivan dropping back into that pocket always.

But it was the old rules.

Take that into account.

Middle of the park, you've lost Fenton.

And then up front, you've lost possibly one of the most potent forward line.

You're basically after decimating a team and then you lose your manager.

And then there's a narrative around Dublin.