Tomás Ó Sé

And whatever way you look at it, they're one of the biggest teams in the country.

The support aren't following them.

I don't think anybody could foresee it happening as quickly or as... Nobody fears Dublin now, probably.

Like they used to.

What do you make of the support?

The city talk of dividing Dublin and all that crack.

And I remember talking to Ciarán Whelan.

And Ciarán Whelan said to me a long time ago, and I used to say, will you go away, go away from me, stop talking to me, because I was in the middle of their dominance.

And he says, I'm telling you, the pipeline is going to be cut and Dublin won't be.

And what he said has come to fruition.

But I still don't think.

They're as bad or they're like a team, Joe, that are playing with no confidence or belief.

And that's important.

They need that.

Yeah, but there was a buzz.

They had no, they were hungry for success from 95.

So that team that Pillar had was kind of building and building.

It was the same as Kerry in 97.

Kerry went from 86 to 97 without it.

So that team that Pillar was bringing up and that went on then to