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But it's completely... Like, lads, there's no way... Like, Dara is another example, and I'm only...

Dara probably wasn't fully developed as a midfielder even though he was competing he was doing extremely well 21, 22, 23 but he wasn't fully physically there probably until 24, 25 whereas now they're actually they're coming they're physically ready to rock and that's why people ask me

Would you not like the under 20s to go back to 21?

And I said, no, because there'd be a lot more playing senior and you'd have less access to them, basically.

Oh, I would say they're right up there.

I'd have an unbelievable time for McGeaney as a manager.

I think Kildare players, and you'll always gauge it off the players, even though he had been there so long, were disgusted that he left.

And even to this day, I would say... They've never recovered.

Not.

And then, it's one thing coming in and having an effect.

You see it in hurlers.

You see managers going around and they go around from team to team and they get two or three years and...

Probably going balling and shouting and get an effect, get a rise, and then that's it.

Whereas McGeaney, I didn't expect Armagh.

He gets players, and if you look at Armagh underage, minors and 20s, and I've spoken to lads from Armagh,

they wouldn't see the potential in those players or you wouldn't have seen the performances in those players that McGeaney gets out of them as seniors.

So there's an ability there.

I don't know, is it belief?

I don't know, is it the coaching?

I don't know, is it the conditioning?