Tom Bilyeu

It doesn't have to be fighting, but it does need to be that warrior spirit that there's something that you're so committed to that you'll go all the way.

In the book, you talk about a moment where this really got put to the test.

All of this stuff together, Hickson, it almost seems impossible to believe that it's one person.

But the time that I think it was a Japanese fighter shows up at your school and fishhooks you.

Yes.

Walk us through that story, because in the book, you detail it so well.

And I was like, oh, my God.

Did you live ready to fight at all times at that period in your life?

Yeah, that's what I think makes your family and your style of fighting, certainly in the era where you were the number one, so interesting is that it's born out of being ready for a street fight.

It's born out of really being able to defend yourself in a life or death situation, not just in the sport.

How were you raised?

Your dad seems to be a very unique character.

What values did he instill in you guys?

Do you think that being small and weak influenced the way that he thought about things like resilience?

It's so interesting that he took to that so well that he could just watch it and then be able to do it instantly and then be able to innovate.

It's really pretty impressive.

Yes.

Now, is he unique like that or have there been other people that have added as much?

Yeah, it's interesting.

So there's a quote, I forget who said it, Aristotle or somebody, that the only impossible job is raising kids.