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Tom Bowman

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The NPR Politics Podcast
Trump Administration Fires Top Pentagon Officials, Military Lawyers

And one thing to point out here, Susan, is that what effect will this have on recruiting? Yeah. Is that a good job for me? You know, or African-Americans. Right. If they're treating people this way and saying, oh, you just got the job because of race. Why would I want to join that organization if they're already basically saying, you know, you're not up to standard?

The NPR Politics Podcast
Trump Administration Fires Top Pentagon Officials, Military Lawyers

And one thing to point out here, Susan, is that what effect will this have on recruiting? Yeah. Is that a good job for me? You know, or African-Americans. Right. If they're treating people this way and saying, oh, you just got the job because of race. Why would I want to join that organization if they're already basically saying, you know, you're not up to standard?

The NPR Politics Podcast
Trump Administration Fires Top Pentagon Officials, Military Lawyers

And one thing to point out here, Susan, is that what effect will this have on recruiting? Yeah. Is that a good job for me? You know, or African-Americans. Right. If they're treating people this way and saying, oh, you just got the job because of race. Why would I want to join that organization if they're already basically saying, you know, you're not up to standard?

The NPR Politics Podcast
Trump Administration Fires Top Pentagon Officials, Military Lawyers

No, that's right. I mean, he considers them roadblocks. And he said that in his confirmation hearing, they're tying the hands of warfighters. And of course, there is a concern. You know, it's funny because everyone was focused on C.Q. Brown and also Lisa Franchetti, the top officer in the Navy. We were all focused on that, me and others. We miss the Jags.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Trump Administration Fires Top Pentagon Officials, Military Lawyers

No, that's right. I mean, he considers them roadblocks. And he said that in his confirmation hearing, they're tying the hands of warfighters. And of course, there is a concern. You know, it's funny because everyone was focused on C.Q. Brown and also Lisa Franchetti, the top officer in the Navy. We were all focused on that, me and others. We miss the Jags.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Trump Administration Fires Top Pentagon Officials, Military Lawyers

No, that's right. I mean, he considers them roadblocks. And he said that in his confirmation hearing, they're tying the hands of warfighters. And of course, there is a concern. You know, it's funny because everyone was focused on C.Q. Brown and also Lisa Franchetti, the top officer in the Navy. We were all focused on that, me and others. We miss the Jags.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Trump Administration Fires Top Pentagon Officials, Military Lawyers

And people called me after the story came out about C.Q. Brown and Franchetti and said, Tom, Look at the lawyers. Look what they're doing. And what they're looking for apparently is more compliant lawyers, right? So we could have problems with – let's say they want to use active duty troops on American streets, which previous defense secretary said is not a good idea.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Trump Administration Fires Top Pentagon Officials, Military Lawyers

And people called me after the story came out about C.Q. Brown and Franchetti and said, Tom, Look at the lawyers. Look what they're doing. And what they're looking for apparently is more compliant lawyers, right? So we could have problems with – let's say they want to use active duty troops on American streets, which previous defense secretary said is not a good idea.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Trump Administration Fires Top Pentagon Officials, Military Lawyers

And people called me after the story came out about C.Q. Brown and Franchetti and said, Tom, Look at the lawyers. Look what they're doing. And what they're looking for apparently is more compliant lawyers, right? So we could have problems with – let's say they want to use active duty troops on American streets, which previous defense secretary said is not a good idea.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Trump Administration Fires Top Pentagon Officials, Military Lawyers

It violates the Posse Comitatus Act after the Civil War. which basically says active duty troops should have no policing role on American cities. And finally, I was talking with Frank Kendall, who is Air Force Secretary under Joe Biden. And he said one of his concerns is, let's say you're doing a bombing run in Yemen or Iraq or Syria. They're very, very careful not to have any civilian casualties.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Trump Administration Fires Top Pentagon Officials, Military Lawyers

It violates the Posse Comitatus Act after the Civil War. which basically says active duty troops should have no policing role on American cities. And finally, I was talking with Frank Kendall, who is Air Force Secretary under Joe Biden. And he said one of his concerns is, let's say you're doing a bombing run in Yemen or Iraq or Syria. They're very, very careful not to have any civilian casualties.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Trump Administration Fires Top Pentagon Officials, Military Lawyers

It violates the Posse Comitatus Act after the Civil War. which basically says active duty troops should have no policing role on American cities. And finally, I was talking with Frank Kendall, who is Air Force Secretary under Joe Biden. And he said one of his concerns is, let's say you're doing a bombing run in Yemen or Iraq or Syria. They're very, very careful not to have any civilian casualties.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Trump Administration Fires Top Pentagon Officials, Military Lawyers

And the lawyers look through that with a fine tooth comb. That could go away. That's his concern. And that's a concern of others.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Trump Administration Fires Top Pentagon Officials, Military Lawyers

And the lawyers look through that with a fine tooth comb. That could go away. That's his concern. And that's a concern of others.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Trump Administration Fires Top Pentagon Officials, Military Lawyers

And the lawyers look through that with a fine tooth comb. That could go away. That's his concern. And that's a concern of others.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Trump Administration Fires Top Pentagon Officials, Military Lawyers

I've spent a lot of time in Iraq and Afghanistan and some time in Syria. The hands of the American service members are not tied. I've been on many combat operations, and clearly they can do the job with the lawyers.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Trump Administration Fires Top Pentagon Officials, Military Lawyers

I've spent a lot of time in Iraq and Afghanistan and some time in Syria. The hands of the American service members are not tied. I've been on many combat operations, and clearly they can do the job with the lawyers.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Trump Administration Fires Top Pentagon Officials, Military Lawyers

I've spent a lot of time in Iraq and Afghanistan and some time in Syria. The hands of the American service members are not tied. I've been on many combat operations, and clearly they can do the job with the lawyers.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Trump Administration Fires Top Pentagon Officials, Military Lawyers

Right. And they're looking at up to 55,000 cuts at the Pentagon and also the defense agencies like Defense Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency. But they're doing a review of all of those just to see if it makes sense with the national security standard to fire all those people.

The NPR Politics Podcast
Trump Administration Fires Top Pentagon Officials, Military Lawyers

Right. And they're looking at up to 55,000 cuts at the Pentagon and also the defense agencies like Defense Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency. But they're doing a review of all of those just to see if it makes sense with the national security standard to fire all those people.