Tom Brunskill

when I'm trying to put myself through college or support my family or raise kids or whatever it might be.

And so building a more socially equitable and accessible system is something that sits at the core of what we're trying to do at Forage.

And we would not be able to do that if it weren't for software and technology.

Yeah.

And look, of course, there is value.

If you have the opportunity to go and work overseas in Paris or wherever it might be, you should definitely take that opportunity.

But just be aware that a huge proportion of

young people just, even if that opportunity was put on their lap, it's just not feasible for them to pursue.

And so that's, I guess, like what we've recognised.

And that's what companies recognise as well.

And certainly like COVID has, in some respects, exacerbated some of those obstacles.

And yeah, without sounding like a broken record, as I said, like technology is kind of a key to overcoming those barriers and ensuring that

certainly not a level playing field, but like it somewhat creates a more level playing field by ensuring that everyone has the opportunity to access work experience opportunities.

So again, our belief about the future, I mean, not just the future today, but lifelong learning, like you have to sign up to lifelong learning, right?

You have to continue to develop yourself.

The idea that you can rely on doing a four-year university degree 10, 20, 30 years ago and think that the knowledge and skills that you acquired in that very specific experience is going to hold you in good stead for the rest of your life is...

a poor strategy in my mind.

I mean, even when I look back at my university degree, I kind of think like, how much am I still using it today?

And what parts of it are already dated?

And again, with technology, it's so easy to go and build skills and build your knowledge.