Tom Colicchio

People were yelling. But, you know, I think there's a reason for that. Especially when I was in France working, I got a sense that they couldn't communicate any other way. That was the only way they could actually, like, get a point across. Right, the French. Was just yelling and screaming, yeah. And so you got used to it.

People were yelling. But, you know, I think there's a reason for that. Especially when I was in France working, I got a sense that they couldn't communicate any other way. That was the only way they could actually, like, get a point across. Right, the French. Was just yelling and screaming, yeah. And so you got used to it.

So I guess my question to you is, like, I mean... They were yelling at you in a different language. Yeah, yeah.

So I guess my question to you is, like, I mean... They were yelling at you in a different language. Yeah, yeah.

No, we don't do that anymore. No, no, we can't do that. No, things have changed. When I was coming up, it was 40 years ago. It was a very different world that we lived in. And there wasn't a whole lot of in-your-face screaming and yelling, but it was a lot of hard, long hours. And there was a lot expected of you. But it wasn't the yelling and screaming that you think about.

No, we don't do that anymore. No, no, we can't do that. No, things have changed. When I was coming up, it was 40 years ago. It was a very different world that we lived in. And there wasn't a whole lot of in-your-face screaming and yelling, but it was a lot of hard, long hours. And there was a lot expected of you. But it wasn't the yelling and screaming that you think about.

But the misogyny was obviously there, the sort of machismo of the kitchen. You burnt yourself. That was a badge of honor. Sometimes you burnt your arms and things like that. But I think a lot of that's going away.

But the misogyny was obviously there, the sort of machismo of the kitchen. You burnt yourself. That was a badge of honor. Sometimes you burnt your arms and things like that. But I think a lot of that's going away.

No, I don't think anything's missing in transfer of knowledge. I think that it's going away for the right reasons. You know, the idea of getting someone to do something through intimidation doesn't really work. I mean, maybe it works in the military. I have no idea. But it certainly isn't necessary to get your point across. And I think also, if you look back, you know, chefs that were

No, I don't think anything's missing in transfer of knowledge. I think that it's going away for the right reasons. You know, the idea of getting someone to do something through intimidation doesn't really work. I mean, maybe it works in the military. I have no idea. But it certainly isn't necessary to get your point across. And I think also, if you look back, you know, chefs that were

You don't have to be. I think it's... a matter of 40 years ago, the chefs that were working in kitchens, they weren't able to communicate exactly what they were looking for. And so they were running around and screaming the whole day because they thought that was the way that you had to motivate people because that's the way they were motivated.

You don't have to be. I think it's... a matter of 40 years ago, the chefs that were working in kitchens, they weren't able to communicate exactly what they were looking for. And so they were running around and screaming the whole day because they thought that was the way that you had to motivate people because that's the way they were motivated.

And it's somewhat along the lines, I mean, for me, and I think I mentioned this in a book. Yeah, with Thomas Keller. Well, that was That was different. That was more psychological nonsense that he was playing. He played a lot of games. I mean, he's a great chef, but I just had an issue with the way he was talking to me. You know, I, you know,

And it's somewhat along the lines, I mean, for me, and I think I mentioned this in a book. Yeah, with Thomas Keller. Well, that was That was different. That was more psychological nonsense that he was playing. He played a lot of games. I mean, he's a great chef, but I just had an issue with the way he was talking to me. You know, I, you know,

I promised myself at a certain point if I got a restaurant that I wasn't going to sort of... The things that... The way I was treated, I was going to break that. I was going to do something different. And, you know, did I lose my temper at times? Absolutely. But nowadays, you kind of walk away. Before you lose your temper, you walk away.

I promised myself at a certain point if I got a restaurant that I wasn't going to sort of... The things that... The way I was treated, I was going to break that. I was going to do something different. And, you know, did I lose my temper at times? Absolutely. But nowadays, you kind of walk away. Before you lose your temper, you walk away.

But I don't know if you saw the third season. We went the whole lot of yelling in the third season. And it wasn't that good, right?

But I don't know if you saw the third season. We went the whole lot of yelling in the third season. And it wasn't that good, right?

I think there's a lot of people who think that the third season was a little slower.

I think there's a lot of people who think that the third season was a little slower.