Tom Drake

I mean, what year is this? This is 88. The background of escape, they don't even, what's interesting, they don't even start the clearance because they can leverage, obviously they leveraged my, I had all kinds of background because I was at one of the highest levels because it was sensitive compartment information. That was the baseline.

I mean, what year is this? This is 88. The background of escape, they don't even, what's interesting, they don't even start the clearance because they can leverage, obviously they leveraged my, I had all kinds of background because I was at one of the highest levels because it was sensitive compartment information. That was the baseline.

I mean, what year is this? This is 88. The background of escape, they don't even, what's interesting, they don't even start the clearance because they can leverage, obviously they leveraged my, I had all kinds of background because I was at one of the highest levels because it was sensitive compartment information. That was the baseline.

Nevermind SAP, SAR, and a lot of compartments later, or even more when I got to NSA as a senior executive. I'm talking just that. So they could leverage that. For them, the psychological was probably, by far, I mean, that was where they really get intrigued, and they had special permission. This is similar to what I went through in the classified training.

Nevermind SAP, SAR, and a lot of compartments later, or even more when I got to NSA as a senior executive. I'm talking just that. So they could leverage that. For them, the psychological was probably, by far, I mean, that was where they really get intrigued, and they had special permission. This is similar to what I went through in the classified training.

Nevermind SAP, SAR, and a lot of compartments later, or even more when I got to NSA as a senior executive. I'm talking just that. So they could leverage that. For them, the psychological was probably, by far, I mean, that was where they really get intrigued, and they had special permission. This is similar to what I went through in the classified training.

So the classified training, the resistance training, but the highly classified part of it, is they had special permission to violate your privacy, Fourth Amendment. They could...

So the classified training, the resistance training, but the highly classified part of it, is they had special permission to violate your privacy, Fourth Amendment. They could...

So the classified training, the resistance training, but the highly classified part of it, is they had special permission to violate your privacy, Fourth Amendment. They could...

it was basically you're just saying you're consenting to just we can get anything on you we don't have to have you sign a paper or we're going to go here and go there it's just anything and they literally had things that somebody i had forgotten about it would come up and what is the means of finding stuff in just they use they use in the 80s they use like there's no cell phones there's no computers right yeah but they've got all kinds of access to databases even then

it was basically you're just saying you're consenting to just we can get anything on you we don't have to have you sign a paper or we're going to go here and go there it's just anything and they literally had things that somebody i had forgotten about it would come up and what is the means of finding stuff in just they use they use in the 80s they use like there's no cell phones there's no computers right yeah but they've got all kinds of access to databases even then

it was basically you're just saying you're consenting to just we can get anything on you we don't have to have you sign a paper or we're going to go here and go there it's just anything and they literally had things that somebody i had forgotten about it would come up and what is the means of finding stuff in just they use they use in the 80s they use like there's no cell phones there's no computers right yeah but they've got all kinds of access to databases even then

and interviews they have with neighbors and friends and where you lived and what your potential, remember, the whole thing is about trust, trust and risk. Yeah, well, yes. You have to forget, there were still computers back then, right?

and interviews they have with neighbors and friends and where you lived and what your potential, remember, the whole thing is about trust, trust and risk. Yeah, well, yes. You have to forget, there were still computers back then, right?

and interviews they have with neighbors and friends and where you lived and what your potential, remember, the whole thing is about trust, trust and risk. Yeah, well, yes. You have to forget, there were still computers back then, right?

And most of them were mainframes, mainframes, right? But there were still tons of paper-based records, still tons. Much more laborious to go through. Yeah. incredibly intrusive. So yeah, they're just...

And most of them were mainframes, mainframes, right? But there were still tons of paper-based records, still tons. Much more laborious to go through. Yeah. incredibly intrusive. So yeah, they're just...

And most of them were mainframes, mainframes, right? But there were still tons of paper-based records, still tons. Much more laborious to go through. Yeah. incredibly intrusive. So yeah, they're just...

drilling down into your life they want to know how trustworthy you were how you know so they they test you yeah and the tests the tests were very sophisticated in terms of preferences and how you thought and and if you were in these circumstances but extremely extremely rigorous to you what was the most never mind the interesting one the ones were actually the face-to-face interviews yeah those were the most dramatic really

drilling down into your life they want to know how trustworthy you were how you know so they they test you yeah and the tests the tests were very sophisticated in terms of preferences and how you thought and and if you were in these circumstances but extremely extremely rigorous to you what was the most never mind the interesting one the ones were actually the face-to-face interviews yeah those were the most dramatic really