Tom Drake

drilling down into your life they want to know how trustworthy you were how you know so they they test you yeah and the tests the tests were very sophisticated in terms of preferences and how you thought and and if you were in these circumstances but extremely extremely rigorous to you what was the most never mind the interesting one the ones were actually the face-to-face interviews yeah those were the most dramatic really

Well, because in part, there was interviews without the poly. There was interviews with polys.

Well, because in part, there was interviews without the poly. There was interviews with polys.

Well, because in part, there was interviews without the poly. There was interviews with polys.

It was the ones where they're really lifestyle questions. Those are the hardcore lifestyle girlfriends, friendships, associations. Mm-hmm. Who you may have been a part of. I mean, like I said, they just- Try to make you uncomfortable. The onion. They just keep peeling your life away, right?

It was the ones where they're really lifestyle questions. Those are the hardcore lifestyle girlfriends, friendships, associations. Mm-hmm. Who you may have been a part of. I mean, like I said, they just- Try to make you uncomfortable. The onion. They just keep peeling your life away, right?

It was the ones where they're really lifestyle questions. Those are the hardcore lifestyle girlfriends, friendships, associations. Mm-hmm. Who you may have been a part of. I mean, like I said, they just- Try to make you uncomfortable. The onion. They just keep peeling your life away, right?

Well, I was an intelligence analyst and all imagery analyst. I could have gone that route, but that's in essence its own CIA. CIA at the time, Central Intelligence Agency. But the one you always hear about is the operations. There's a whole nother, there's several different parts of CIA. The one I was in was the director of intelligence. So this is the part that's linked to NRO. Oh. Yeah.

Well, I was an intelligence analyst and all imagery analyst. I could have gone that route, but that's in essence its own CIA. CIA at the time, Central Intelligence Agency. But the one you always hear about is the operations. There's a whole nother, there's several different parts of CIA. The one I was in was the director of intelligence. So this is the part that's linked to NRO. Oh. Yeah.

Well, I was an intelligence analyst and all imagery analyst. I could have gone that route, but that's in essence its own CIA. CIA at the time, Central Intelligence Agency. But the one you always hear about is the operations. There's a whole nother, there's several different parts of CIA. The one I was in was the director of intelligence. So this is the part that's linked to NRO. Oh. Yeah.

Plus a SIGINT division.

Plus a SIGINT division.

Plus a SIGINT division.

That was even more secret than NSA. I know. That's crazy.

That was even more secret than NSA. I know. That's crazy.

That was even more secret than NSA. I know. That's crazy.

They don't. Because it was one of the other agencies. The irony, of course, for me, I mean, I jump in ahead a little bit. NSA itself was never part of the National Security Act of 47. It was never legislated by Congress. It was literally created out of thin air by the stroke of Harry S. Truman's pen in 1952 as a secret military agency to collect and analyze and report on foreign intelligence.

They don't. Because it was one of the other agencies. The irony, of course, for me, I mean, I jump in ahead a little bit. NSA itself was never part of the National Security Act of 47. It was never legislated by Congress. It was literally created out of thin air by the stroke of Harry S. Truman's pen in 1952 as a secret military agency to collect and analyze and report on foreign intelligence.

They don't. Because it was one of the other agencies. The irony, of course, for me, I mean, I jump in ahead a little bit. NSA itself was never part of the National Security Act of 47. It was never legislated by Congress. It was literally created out of thin air by the stroke of Harry S. Truman's pen in 1952 as a secret military agency to collect and analyze and report on foreign intelligence.

61. You're talking the Cuban, that period, it's like, oh my God, it became formalized, right?