Tom Drake
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It was not real. That's 38. Right. There was a social media. That was a social media of the day. It was radio.
Most aren't because I can tell you there's a bureaucracy. Yeah. See, the real deep state, I'll put that in huge quotes because it's been completely, it's an overloaded phrase now, is the bureaucracy. Some like to call it the administrative state, but it's really the bureaucracy, the everyday running, right?
Most aren't because I can tell you there's a bureaucracy. Yeah. See, the real deep state, I'll put that in huge quotes because it's been completely, it's an overloaded phrase now, is the bureaucracy. Some like to call it the administrative state, but it's really the bureaucracy, the everyday running, right?
Most aren't because I can tell you there's a bureaucracy. Yeah. See, the real deep state, I'll put that in huge quotes because it's been completely, it's an overloaded phrase now, is the bureaucracy. Some like to call it the administrative state, but it's really the bureaucracy, the everyday running, right?
They're just people sitting at desks doing their job, going home with real families and bills and mortgages.
They're just people sitting at desks doing their job, going home with real families and bills and mortgages.
They're just people sitting at desks doing their job, going home with real families and bills and mortgages.
The vast majority of those aren't involved in anything close to what is alleged. Right. But having said that, and remember, part of the problem here is I worked in a very, very secret world for umpteen years. It does do something to you in terms of sort of there's that world, then there's the real world. And there was years I couldn't say what I did outside of work.
The vast majority of those aren't involved in anything close to what is alleged. Right. But having said that, and remember, part of the problem here is I worked in a very, very secret world for umpteen years. It does do something to you in terms of sort of there's that world, then there's the real world. And there was years I couldn't say what I did outside of work.
The vast majority of those aren't involved in anything close to what is alleged. Right. But having said that, and remember, part of the problem here is I worked in a very, very secret world for umpteen years. It does do something to you in terms of sort of there's that world, then there's the real world. And there was years I couldn't say what I did outside of work.
The only place I could even talk about it was at work.
The only place I could even talk about it was at work.
The only place I could even talk about it was at work.
it does it does it does do something to you but on the other hand you're also doing things that no one else knows about i say no one else that the public at large doesn't know about right can we speculate about when you have secret agencies and secret organizations it's very easy to ascribe to them certain activities certain events and it may and it can make sense
it does it does it does do something to you but on the other hand you're also doing things that no one else knows about i say no one else that the public at large doesn't know about right can we speculate about when you have secret agencies and secret organizations it's very easy to ascribe to them certain activities certain events and it may and it can make sense
it does it does it does do something to you but on the other hand you're also doing things that no one else knows about i say no one else that the public at large doesn't know about right can we speculate about when you have secret agencies and secret organizations it's very easy to ascribe to them certain activities certain events and it may and it can make sense
And you can even create logic, logic trees from it.
And you can even create logic, logic trees from it.
And you can even create logic, logic trees from it.
But you're also generating a whole bunch of rabbit holes. Right. And people get lost in the rabbit holes. Yeah. You can imagine, I'll just share this because I have inside knowledge on this, the kind of phone calls that the main desk, just the operator, the main operator, public operator NSA receives is a team of people. You can only imagine the bizarre at times calls that come in on that line.