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Tom Drake

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Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

We're just talking about, I mean, I'm going to different labs. I actually went to PARC, Palo Alto Research Center, fascinating trip. I went to AT&T Bell Labs, it doesn't exist anymore, up in New Jersey, fascinating, phenomenal stuff, right? Leading edge, but all in labs, people don't even realize what's, this again, this extraordinary thing about America in terms of inventing, hey,

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

We're just talking about, I mean, I'm going to different labs. I actually went to PARC, Palo Alto Research Center, fascinating trip. I went to AT&T Bell Labs, it doesn't exist anymore, up in New Jersey, fascinating, phenomenal stuff, right? Leading edge, but all in labs, people don't even realize what's, this again, this extraordinary thing about America in terms of inventing, hey,

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

Because we have this mentality, problem, solve it, problem, solve it, problem, solve it. Why wouldn't you? Necessity, the famous phrase, necessity is the mother of invention. Why not? Why would you stop that from happening? Why would you prevent that from happening? So,

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

Because we have this mentality, problem, solve it, problem, solve it, problem, solve it. Why wouldn't you? Necessity, the famous phrase, necessity is the mother of invention. Why not? Why would you stop that from happening? Why would you prevent that from happening? So,

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

Because we have this mentality, problem, solve it, problem, solve it, problem, solve it. Why wouldn't you? Necessity, the famous phrase, necessity is the mother of invention. Why not? Why would you stop that from happening? Why would you prevent that from happening? So,

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

I'm at NSA, I begin, because I'm bringing back, right, new thoughts, new, and then there's people at NSA that I'm, because I had an enterprise, I had enterprise responsibility, I'm going through the ends, I even went overseas in a couple of cases. So I'm going to the ends of NSA, to find the very best projects, the very best program is to help those improve themselves at the same time.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

I'm at NSA, I begin, because I'm bringing back, right, new thoughts, new, and then there's people at NSA that I'm, because I had an enterprise, I had enterprise responsibility, I'm going through the ends, I even went overseas in a couple of cases. So I'm going to the ends of NSA, to find the very best projects, the very best program is to help those improve themselves at the same time.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

I'm at NSA, I begin, because I'm bringing back, right, new thoughts, new, and then there's people at NSA that I'm, because I had an enterprise, I had enterprise responsibility, I'm going through the ends, I even went overseas in a couple of cases. So I'm going to the ends of NSA, to find the very best projects, the very best program is to help those improve themselves at the same time.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

And that's why we were doing these special reviews. In the course of doing all that, just to compress all this to get to 2001, I was finding people phenomenal, call it SIGINT Skunk Works, like Lockheed Martin Skunk Works that built the U2 in the SR-71.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

And that's why we were doing these special reviews. In the course of doing all that, just to compress all this to get to 2001, I was finding people phenomenal, call it SIGINT Skunk Works, like Lockheed Martin Skunk Works that built the U2 in the SR-71.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

And that's why we were doing these special reviews. In the course of doing all that, just to compress all this to get to 2001, I was finding people phenomenal, call it SIGINT Skunk Works, like Lockheed Martin Skunk Works that built the U2 in the SR-71.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

phenomenal because NSA was realized in the 90s in particular they faced a huge challenge with the digital age they couldn't just because that's the only thing they knew oh we'll just bring everything back store it and figure it out later bring everything back store it yeah how do you suck the ocean dry Can you just, wait a minute, leave the ocean where it is. Just keep track.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

phenomenal because NSA was realized in the 90s in particular they faced a huge challenge with the digital age they couldn't just because that's the only thing they knew oh we'll just bring everything back store it and figure it out later bring everything back store it yeah how do you suck the ocean dry Can you just, wait a minute, leave the ocean where it is. Just keep track.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

phenomenal because NSA was realized in the 90s in particular they faced a huge challenge with the digital age they couldn't just because that's the only thing they knew oh we'll just bring everything back store it and figure it out later bring everything back store it yeah how do you suck the ocean dry Can you just, wait a minute, leave the ocean where it is. Just keep track.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

And this is how I was taught, even on the RC-135. Essential elements of information, metadata, the critical information, the things that you need to know about. The stuff that's routine, you just keep track of that. It's only when it turns to something other than routine that you care.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

And this is how I was taught, even on the RC-135. Essential elements of information, metadata, the critical information, the things that you need to know about. The stuff that's routine, you just keep track of that. It's only when it turns to something other than routine that you care.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

And this is how I was taught, even on the RC-135. Essential elements of information, metadata, the critical information, the things that you need to know about. The stuff that's routine, you just keep track of that. It's only when it turns to something other than routine that you care.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

That's kind of the signal to noise ratio. When it rises above a certain level, you then say you notice it, but you can't notice everything. I can't always look at every straw in the haystack, can I? I need to know, though, if one of the straws turns. How do I know that? Well, I have to know when it turns. Or it catches on fire, okay? I got to know about that.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

That's kind of the signal to noise ratio. When it rises above a certain level, you then say you notice it, but you can't notice everything. I can't always look at every straw in the haystack, can I? I need to know, though, if one of the straws turns. How do I know that? Well, I have to know when it turns. Or it catches on fire, okay? I got to know about that.

Danny Jones Podcast
#288 - Top NSA Official Reveals Darkest Secrets of the Deep State | Tom Drake

That's kind of the signal to noise ratio. When it rises above a certain level, you then say you notice it, but you can't notice everything. I can't always look at every straw in the haystack, can I? I need to know, though, if one of the straws turns. How do I know that? Well, I have to know when it turns. Or it catches on fire, okay? I got to know about that.