Tom Drake

So now there's an entire facility which can actually grow even more if they needed to. So there is locations, physical locations, without mentioning where they are, on the campus, they call it the NSA larger campus at Fort Meade, where they would have special buildings that are all air chilled, right? Chillers and everything else, vast. Some are underground, some are in special buildings, right?

Yeah. where they would store all the data and where you end up, this data is being stored in databases. So this Google appliance was in essence to figure out what we had, right? It was, it's part of the network, but of course it does its job really, really well. It just goes out, finds it and brings it all back.

Yeah. where they would store all the data and where you end up, this data is being stored in databases. So this Google appliance was in essence to figure out what we had, right? It was, it's part of the network, but of course it does its job really, really well. It just goes out, finds it and brings it all back.

Yeah. where they would store all the data and where you end up, this data is being stored in databases. So this Google appliance was in essence to figure out what we had, right? It was, it's part of the network, but of course it does its job really, really well. It just goes out, finds it and brings it all back.

It was an attempt for the right reasons to help facilitate communication, to help provide sharing of information within NSA. but it found things that they didn't want the rest of NSA to know about, which were these special red zones, compartmented programs, highly sensitive. Because they thought, the techs thought, oh no, our firewalls are strong enough that it'll never penetrate.

It was an attempt for the right reasons to help facilitate communication, to help provide sharing of information within NSA. but it found things that they didn't want the rest of NSA to know about, which were these special red zones, compartmented programs, highly sensitive. Because they thought, the techs thought, oh no, our firewalls are strong enough that it'll never penetrate.

It was an attempt for the right reasons to help facilitate communication, to help provide sharing of information within NSA. but it found things that they didn't want the rest of NSA to know about, which were these special red zones, compartmented programs, highly sensitive. Because they thought, the techs thought, oh no, our firewalls are strong enough that it'll never penetrate.

We're not talking a physical barrier. We're actually talking firewalls at the software firmware level which would prevent even other parts of NSA because as soon as... To get through it. Right, it would just reject it, any attempt. And it was a Google appliance. It was a Google appliance, but they didn't realize the power of the Google appliance.

We're not talking a physical barrier. We're actually talking firewalls at the software firmware level which would prevent even other parts of NSA because as soon as... To get through it. Right, it would just reject it, any attempt. And it was a Google appliance. It was a Google appliance, but they didn't realize the power of the Google appliance.

We're not talking a physical barrier. We're actually talking firewalls at the software firmware level which would prevent even other parts of NSA because as soon as... To get through it. Right, it would just reject it, any attempt. And it was a Google appliance. It was a Google appliance, but they didn't realize the power of the Google appliance.

I did because I was spending all kinds of time in Silicon Valley consulting. I had this dual thing. It was an interesting place. I just happened to be there. You say, where's Waldo? Well, I was Waldo. I work in a super secret world. Then I'm going out into the burgeoning explosion of internet in terms of commercial. And where am I going most of the time? Silicon Valley.

I did because I was spending all kinds of time in Silicon Valley consulting. I had this dual thing. It was an interesting place. I just happened to be there. You say, where's Waldo? Well, I was Waldo. I work in a super secret world. Then I'm going out into the burgeoning explosion of internet in terms of commercial. And where am I going most of the time? Silicon Valley.

I did because I was spending all kinds of time in Silicon Valley consulting. I had this dual thing. It was an interesting place. I just happened to be there. You say, where's Waldo? Well, I was Waldo. I work in a super secret world. Then I'm going out into the burgeoning explosion of internet in terms of commercial. And where am I going most of the time? Silicon Valley.

Learning, I mean, just fascinating. Absolutely fascinating. Doing consulting. I was even allowed to engage with separate, basically consulting efforts, projects when I was there.

Learning, I mean, just fascinating. Absolutely fascinating. Doing consulting. I was even allowed to engage with separate, basically consulting efforts, projects when I was there.

Learning, I mean, just fascinating. Absolutely fascinating. Doing consulting. I was even allowed to engage with separate, basically consulting efforts, projects when I was there.

Management and technology. But I was also part of my entree. I was doing what we were doing inside NSA, but I was even doing it now both ways. So they were getting the benefit of what I was doing inside NSA. They're willing to share its national security. Right, remember I'm- They can share everything with you. Well, not everything, but this wasn't surveillance.

Management and technology. But I was also part of my entree. I was doing what we were doing inside NSA, but I was even doing it now both ways. So they were getting the benefit of what I was doing inside NSA. They're willing to share its national security. Right, remember I'm- They can share everything with you. Well, not everything, but this wasn't surveillance.

Management and technology. But I was also part of my entree. I was doing what we were doing inside NSA, but I was even doing it now both ways. So they were getting the benefit of what I was doing inside NSA. They're willing to share its national security. Right, remember I'm- They can share everything with you. Well, not everything, but this wasn't surveillance.

We're just talking about, I mean, I'm going to different labs. I actually went to PARC, Palo Alto Research Center, fascinating trip. I went to AT&T Bell Labs, it doesn't exist anymore, up in New Jersey, fascinating, phenomenal stuff, right? Leading edge, but all in labs, people don't even realize what's, this again, this extraordinary thing about America in terms of inventing, hey,