Tom Drake
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NSA historically, for a number of years, had published their five top challenge problems. They had more than that. But the five top was for the priorities. One of them was the big data problem. So you can imagine NSA, the necessity being the mother of invention, let's go solve it.
I met the engineers, met the program and project and a whole collection analysis, right, and reporting to do exactly that on behalf of the American people. They solved the big data problem, the core of it, prior to 9-11. Had already solved it. But NSA, nope, the corporate decision is their people actually got punished for this internally, punished. We've already made the decision.
I met the engineers, met the program and project and a whole collection analysis, right, and reporting to do exactly that on behalf of the American people. They solved the big data problem, the core of it, prior to 9-11. Had already solved it. But NSA, nope, the corporate decision is their people actually got punished for this internally, punished. We've already made the decision.
I met the engineers, met the program and project and a whole collection analysis, right, and reporting to do exactly that on behalf of the American people. They solved the big data problem, the core of it, prior to 9-11. Had already solved it. But NSA, nope, the corporate decision is their people actually got punished for this internally, punished. We've already made the decision.
We're just going to go to, and they spent, we're talking the initial version of this transformation, this whole transformation effort, which I was actually a part of. I was in the inside of it. But it became clear all they wanted to do was create a contract vehicle to spend billions and billions and billions of dollars.
We're just going to go to, and they spent, we're talking the initial version of this transformation, this whole transformation effort, which I was actually a part of. I was in the inside of it. But it became clear all they wanted to do was create a contract vehicle to spend billions and billions and billions of dollars.
We're just going to go to, and they spent, we're talking the initial version of this transformation, this whole transformation effort, which I was actually a part of. I was in the inside of it. But it became clear all they wanted to do was create a contract vehicle to spend billions and billions and billions of dollars.
Now, I already got an insight on that back in the late- By partnering with private industry? Yes. Okay. Commercial, private, but military. We're talking those who had access and had the proper security clearances or could. We're talking like the SAICs of the world. We're talking about the Booz Allens of the world. We're talking about the IT portions of those companies.
Now, I already got an insight on that back in the late- By partnering with private industry? Yes. Okay. Commercial, private, but military. We're talking those who had access and had the proper security clearances or could. We're talking like the SAICs of the world. We're talking about the Booz Allens of the world. We're talking about the IT portions of those companies.
Now, I already got an insight on that back in the late- By partnering with private industry? Yes. Okay. Commercial, private, but military. We're talking those who had access and had the proper security clearances or could. We're talking like the SAICs of the world. We're talking about the Booz Allens of the world. We're talking about the IT portions of those companies.
NSA had already solved it internally. Not by buying it, they were going to make it, but that was the historical legacy of NSA. They had contractors going all the way back, but they weren't just going out to industry and just wholesale, here, we'll just give you a bunch of money, figure it out. Remember what Eisenhower warned the nation about in his farewell address in 1961?
NSA had already solved it internally. Not by buying it, they were going to make it, but that was the historical legacy of NSA. They had contractors going all the way back, but they weren't just going out to industry and just wholesale, here, we'll just give you a bunch of money, figure it out. Remember what Eisenhower warned the nation about in his farewell address in 1961?
NSA had already solved it internally. Not by buying it, they were going to make it, but that was the historical legacy of NSA. They had contractors going all the way back, but they weren't just going out to industry and just wholesale, here, we'll just give you a bunch of money, figure it out. Remember what Eisenhower warned the nation about in his farewell address in 1961?
the rise of military in the halls of, the rise of military industrial complex. Now it's a military industrial intelligence complex. If you're a contractor and you have shareholders, But guess what you're going to perversely incentivize to do? Why solve the problem? I started seeing it. I was seeing it in the 90s. I was already seeing it on this program.
the rise of military in the halls of, the rise of military industrial complex. Now it's a military industrial intelligence complex. If you're a contractor and you have shareholders, But guess what you're going to perversely incentivize to do? Why solve the problem? I started seeing it. I was seeing it in the 90s. I was already seeing it on this program.
the rise of military in the halls of, the rise of military industrial complex. Now it's a military industrial intelligence complex. If you're a contractor and you have shareholders, But guess what you're going to perversely incentivize to do? Why solve the problem? I started seeing it. I was seeing it in the 90s. I was already seeing it on this program.
People were like, we're going to buy lines of code. Well, if I'm a contractor, okay. People, there's a joke about it. I'm just going to code me up a Winnebago today because I could just crank. bunch of lines of code just to get paid more. There was one project that we analyzed. They literally, the government was paying the contractor $8,000 for every line of code. So we'll get it.
People were like, we're going to buy lines of code. Well, if I'm a contractor, okay. People, there's a joke about it. I'm just going to code me up a Winnebago today because I could just crank. bunch of lines of code just to get paid more. There was one project that we analyzed. They literally, the government was paying the contractor $8,000 for every line of code. So we'll get it.
People were like, we're going to buy lines of code. Well, if I'm a contractor, okay. People, there's a joke about it. I'm just going to code me up a Winnebago today because I could just crank. bunch of lines of code just to get paid more. There was one project that we analyzed. They literally, the government was paying the contractor $8,000 for every line of code. So we'll get it.
We'll get you to do more lines of code. It's not about lines of code. It's about the functions that provide support to the mission. Fulfill the mission. Yes. Right. Provide for the common defense on behalf of the American people. That's your responsibility. And you have a fiduciary responsibility to make sure that the money is spent wisely and that you account for it. Right.