Tom Drake
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Collection is what they called it, but it's really mass surveillance. Right. without getting into deep, but starting with phone calls, starting emails, later expanded very quickly.
Right, I already started. Remember, I already had the capacity to do all that. And you were seeing this firsthand. I already had all that, yes. I became directly aware of it. Then I started poking around.
Right, I already started. Remember, I already had the capacity to do all that. And you were seeing this firsthand. I already had all that, yes. I became directly aware of it. Then I started poking around.
Right, I already started. Remember, I already had the capacity to do all that. And you were seeing this firsthand. I already had all that, yes. I became directly aware of it. Then I started poking around.
i was making trouble already good trouble okay okay good trouble early early on i was already being tagged america's a new hire and already being tagged so what do you do so i confront the office of general counsel now it turns out because this program is so secret it was in its own compartment the name of the program
i was making trouble already good trouble okay okay good trouble early early on i was already being tagged america's a new hire and already being tagged so what do you do so i confront the office of general counsel now it turns out because this program is so secret it was in its own compartment the name of the program
i was making trouble already good trouble okay okay good trouble early early on i was already being tagged america's a new hire and already being tagged so what do you do so i confront the office of general counsel now it turns out because this program is so secret it was in its own compartment the name of the program
was its own compartment, which was inside what they call exceptionally controlled information, ECI, which is way beyond even SCI. But it had its own compartment. Its own compartment was the name of the program. This program name in itself was classified. You never said it. Oh no, I can say it now. Oh, you can? But back then... People who said it was way under their breath. What was it called?
was its own compartment, which was inside what they call exceptionally controlled information, ECI, which is way beyond even SCI. But it had its own compartment. Its own compartment was the name of the program. This program name in itself was classified. You never said it. Oh no, I can say it now. Oh, you can? But back then... People who said it was way under their breath. What was it called?
was its own compartment, which was inside what they call exceptionally controlled information, ECI, which is way beyond even SCI. But it had its own compartment. Its own compartment was the name of the program. This program name in itself was classified. You never said it. Oh no, I can say it now. Oh, you can? But back then... People who said it was way under their breath. What was it called?
Stellar Wind. Oh, okay. We called it, colloquially between us, Cosmic Fart. That's amazing. Okay, so Stellar Wind. Interesting name, but there's a whole office that handles program project names. Very famous name now. But the name itself... right, the program name itself, which is extraordinarily rare, because the program itself uses a cover. This program was so secret, it turns out.
Stellar Wind. Oh, okay. We called it, colloquially between us, Cosmic Fart. That's amazing. Okay, so Stellar Wind. Interesting name, but there's a whole office that handles program project names. Very famous name now. But the name itself... right, the program name itself, which is extraordinarily rare, because the program itself uses a cover. This program was so secret, it turns out.
Stellar Wind. Oh, okay. We called it, colloquially between us, Cosmic Fart. That's amazing. Okay, so Stellar Wind. Interesting name, but there's a whole office that handles program project names. Very famous name now. But the name itself... right, the program name itself, which is extraordinarily rare, because the program itself uses a cover. This program was so secret, it turns out.
Sensitive compartmented information. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, there's handling caveats, which are basically compartments, or can be. Right. how do you distribute? Right. There's, but just there's, there's classified secret, top secret standard week. But then there's, then there's the, the SCI world and above. Okay. Got it. And it just gets hyper, you know, you get super secret.
Sensitive compartmented information. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, there's handling caveats, which are basically compartments, or can be. Right. how do you distribute? Right. There's, but just there's, there's classified secret, top secret standard week. But then there's, then there's the, the SCI world and above. Okay. Got it. And it just gets hyper, you know, you get super secret.
Sensitive compartmented information. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, there's handling caveats, which are basically compartments, or can be. Right. how do you distribute? Right. There's, but just there's, there's classified secret, top secret standard week. But then there's, then there's the, the SCI world and above. Okay. Got it. And it just gets hyper, you know, you get super secret.
The more there's Q level, we call it Q level clearance, which was for like nuclear stuff. My mom is a secretary at Barksdale where she met my dad because he was in strategic air command back in the mid-50s. Had a queue clearance because she was the secretary for one of the senior officers. Holy shit. Because she's looking at stuff that's quite sensitive, right?
The more there's Q level, we call it Q level clearance, which was for like nuclear stuff. My mom is a secretary at Barksdale where she met my dad because he was in strategic air command back in the mid-50s. Had a queue clearance because she was the secretary for one of the senior officers. Holy shit. Because she's looking at stuff that's quite sensitive, right?
The more there's Q level, we call it Q level clearance, which was for like nuclear stuff. My mom is a secretary at Barksdale where she met my dad because he was in strategic air command back in the mid-50s. Had a queue clearance because she was the secretary for one of the senior officers. Holy shit. Because she's looking at stuff that's quite sensitive, right?
Even though she was an administrative assistant, right?