Tom Drake

Even though she was an administrative assistant, right?

Even though she was an administrative assistant, right?

I understand why they did what they did. I understand. I get that. And I remember under a short term, you're allowed to go after threats without a warrant, but you still have to go seek it shortly thereafter. It's all prescribed in FISA. But they just buy it. We don't have time for that. Forget it. Don't have time for it. Just bypass it. They just wanted the data. Now, why?

I understand why they did what they did. I understand. I get that. And I remember under a short term, you're allowed to go after threats without a warrant, but you still have to go seek it shortly thereafter. It's all prescribed in FISA. But they just buy it. We don't have time for that. Forget it. Don't have time for it. Just bypass it. They just wanted the data. Now, why?

I understand why they did what they did. I understand. I get that. And I remember under a short term, you're allowed to go after threats without a warrant, but you still have to go seek it shortly thereafter. It's all prescribed in FISA. But they just buy it. We don't have time for that. Forget it. Don't have time for it. Just bypass it. They just wanted the data. Now, why?

I'm now, it's like, I'm incredibly alarmed at the developments within just a couple of weeks. First week in October. Turns out it's also, I didn't know it at the time, was officially when the President's Surveillance Program went into effect. It's called the PSP under Bush. PSP. PSP. President's Surveillance Program. Okay. Umbrella Program.

I'm now, it's like, I'm incredibly alarmed at the developments within just a couple of weeks. First week in October. Turns out it's also, I didn't know it at the time, was officially when the President's Surveillance Program went into effect. It's called the PSP under Bush. PSP. PSP. President's Surveillance Program. Okay. Umbrella Program.

I'm now, it's like, I'm incredibly alarmed at the developments within just a couple of weeks. First week in October. Turns out it's also, I didn't know it at the time, was officially when the President's Surveillance Program went into effect. It's called the PSP under Bush. PSP. PSP. President's Surveillance Program. Okay. Umbrella Program.

Authorized by the president, the primary umbrella program at NSA, which became the executive agent, right, for the program was Stellar Wind. That was the umbrella program itself, encompassing a number of other sub-programs. Got it. There was one counsel that I'm aware of, based on my understanding even to this day, there was one particular lawyer in the Office of General Counsel

Authorized by the president, the primary umbrella program at NSA, which became the executive agent, right, for the program was Stellar Wind. That was the umbrella program itself, encompassing a number of other sub-programs. Got it. There was one counsel that I'm aware of, based on my understanding even to this day, there was one particular lawyer in the Office of General Counsel

Authorized by the president, the primary umbrella program at NSA, which became the executive agent, right, for the program was Stellar Wind. That was the umbrella program itself, encompassing a number of other sub-programs. Got it. There was one counsel that I'm aware of, based on my understanding even to this day, there was one particular lawyer in the Office of General Counsel

He was actually interviewed once as part of a larger NPR frontline report. Actually, I was interviewed for that. Myself, Diane Rourke, Bill Binney, Keurig Wiebe, Ed Loomis. I'm on the phone. I said, what are we doing? We're violating the Fourth Amendment. FISA is the, and there was a whole, there was a whole set of internal reports

He was actually interviewed once as part of a larger NPR frontline report. Actually, I was interviewed for that. Myself, Diane Rourke, Bill Binney, Keurig Wiebe, Ed Loomis. I'm on the phone. I said, what are we doing? We're violating the Fourth Amendment. FISA is the, and there was a whole, there was a whole set of internal reports

He was actually interviewed once as part of a larger NPR frontline report. Actually, I was interviewed for that. Myself, Diane Rourke, Bill Binney, Keurig Wiebe, Ed Loomis. I'm on the phone. I said, what are we doing? We're violating the Fourth Amendment. FISA is the, and there was a whole, there was a whole set of internal reports

NSA, nothing is done without, you know, you have to have authorities, right? And it goes all the way down to just like individual procedures, standing procedures. NSA had and been refined over the years based on the FISA. FISA had been updated five times to keep up with the times since 1978. Wow. Most of you don't realize that.

NSA, nothing is done without, you know, you have to have authorities, right? And it goes all the way down to just like individual procedures, standing procedures. NSA had and been refined over the years based on the FISA. FISA had been updated five times to keep up with the times since 1978. Wow. Most of you don't realize that.

NSA, nothing is done without, you know, you have to have authorities, right? And it goes all the way down to just like individual procedures, standing procedures. NSA had and been refined over the years based on the FISA. FISA had been updated five times to keep up with the times since 1978. Wow. Most of you don't realize that.

So they had special procedures for handling FISA because now you're, quote, unquote, spying on a U.S. person. sometimes without a warrant initially, but the normal procedure was you had to get the warrant, right, up front. So I said, what are we doing? He says, exigent conditions apply, direct quote, exigent conditions apply. We just need the data. Don't ask any more questions, Mr. Drake.

So they had special procedures for handling FISA because now you're, quote, unquote, spying on a U.S. person. sometimes without a warrant initially, but the normal procedure was you had to get the warrant, right, up front. So I said, what are we doing? He says, exigent conditions apply, direct quote, exigent conditions apply. We just need the data. Don't ask any more questions, Mr. Drake.

So they had special procedures for handling FISA because now you're, quote, unquote, spying on a U.S. person. sometimes without a warrant initially, but the normal procedure was you had to get the warrant, right, up front. So I said, what are we doing? He says, exigent conditions apply, direct quote, exigent conditions apply. We just need the data. Don't ask any more questions, Mr. Drake.