Tom Ellsworth
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I don't think so.
Number two, there's a big difference between someone like President Bill Clinton and Bill Gates.
Bill Gates first.
What the hell does Bill Gates need from Epstein?
He doesn't need money.
He doesn't need access.
He doesn't need power.
You're the richest man in the world or one of the richest men in the world.
What are you going to Epstein for, tax advice?
So in my opinion, you're going to Epstein Island because you want to get away.
Well, he says he never went to Epstein Island.
Okay, but you're associating with Epstein for what?
For access to maybe some fun.
Okay, I don't know if you did or didn't go.
Clinton is a little bit different.
Do you need money?
Do you need power?
Do you need fundraising?
Are your next moves after you're leaving the White House?
You're saying Bill needs Epstein more than Gates needs Epstein.