Tom Ellsworth

I do too. And I think a bunch of these disappear. I think Gretchen Whitmer disappears. I think... I don't even know why Kamala's on that list.

I do too. And I think a bunch of these disappear. I think Gretchen Whitmer disappears. I think... I don't even know why Kamala's on that list.

I think Mayor Pete disappears. Kamala isn't even going to be on the stage. They're not going to let it happen. You think AOC will be on the stage? I think AOC... If AOC is on the stage, she's being allowed to be on the stage if she's non-volatile enough to be a VP candidate.

I think Mayor Pete disappears. Kamala isn't even going to be on the stage. They're not going to let it happen. You think AOC will be on the stage? I think AOC... If AOC is on the stage, she's being allowed to be on the stage if she's non-volatile enough to be a VP candidate.

If she's non-volatile enough. If she gets up on stage and says, whack, then I think what will happen is I'll pull her back. But I think she's maturing. I think she's maturing as a politician. I don't agree with her points, but I think she's maturing. I think she's moderating a little bit. I think she's being coached.

If she's non-volatile enough. If she gets up on stage and says, whack, then I think what will happen is I'll pull her back. But I think she's maturing. I think she's maturing as a politician. I don't agree with her points, but I think she's maturing. I think she's moderating a little bit. I think she's being coached.

But I think she's formidable, and I think she would be there merely to raise her profile to the voter, knowing that Look, she's only going to go three rounds in this thing and then these other people are going to... Adam, thoughts?

But I think she's formidable, and I think she would be there merely to raise her profile to the voter, knowing that Look, she's only going to go three rounds in this thing and then these other people are going to... Adam, thoughts?

Show me that. Look, we've seen this movie before, separate, what you guys are talking about. It's called The Tea Party. It's called The Tea Party. The Tea Party said, we're going to primary some of the guys in our own party, in the Republican Party, because we're upset with you and we do agree with you on this and this and this, and the Tea Party was born.

Show me that. Look, we've seen this movie before, separate, what you guys are talking about. It's called The Tea Party. It's called The Tea Party. The Tea Party said, we're going to primary some of the guys in our own party, in the Republican Party, because we're upset with you and we do agree with you on this and this and this, and the Tea Party was born.

What he just said, you could just change that and take that back 20 years and... put another face on it, and that's what the Tea Party sounded like. This is not what we want, this is not the party we envision, this is not what we're doing, and we're going to primary them. And guess what? The Tea Party people got ostracized on the outside too.

What he just said, you could just change that and take that back 20 years and... put another face on it, and that's what the Tea Party sounded like. This is not what we want, this is not the party we envision, this is not what we're doing, and we're going to primary them. And guess what? The Tea Party people got ostracized on the outside too.

Well, now the Dems are saying, hang on, we can't have this guy taking money and primarying some of our favorite players. No, that's not the way you do it. And that's what's happening here.

Well, now the Dems are saying, hang on, we can't have this guy taking money and primarying some of our favorite players. No, that's not the way you do it. And that's what's happening here.

Well, I completely agree with the principles of it, but I'm saying it's the same situation where people upsetting the establishment got...

Well, I completely agree with the principles of it, but I'm saying it's the same situation where people upsetting the establishment got...

If you say you're going to primary the establishment, this is what happens.

If you say you're going to primary the establishment, this is what happens.

And going into the pocket of the sweater. Boy, there's high-level meetings and there's getting high-level meetings.

And going into the pocket of the sweater. Boy, there's high-level meetings and there's getting high-level meetings.