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Tom Frieden

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Ground Truths
Tom Frieden & Eric Topol - Discuss the Formula for Better Health Book

And the idea is that small changes across large populations make a bigger difference than big changes across small populations.

Ground Truths
Tom Frieden & Eric Topol - Discuss the Formula for Better Health Book

And that can go in either direction, small benefits or small harms.

Ground Truths
Tom Frieden & Eric Topol - Discuss the Formula for Better Health Book

I'll mention two.

Ground Truths
Tom Frieden & Eric Topol - Discuss the Formula for Better Health Book

We talked about lead.

Ground Truths
Tom Frieden & Eric Topol - Discuss the Formula for Better Health Book

Just a little bit of lead less throughout all of society causes

Ground Truths
Tom Frieden & Eric Topol - Discuss the Formula for Better Health Book

creates massive benefits, economic, educational, cardiovascular, kidney, but no one person may know that they've been benefited.

Ground Truths
Tom Frieden & Eric Topol - Discuss the Formula for Better Health Book

However, the industry that had to get the lead out may lobby and block those changes.

Ground Truths
Tom Frieden & Eric Topol - Discuss the Formula for Better Health Book

Similarly,

Ground Truths
Tom Frieden & Eric Topol - Discuss the Formula for Better Health Book

decreasing potassium or increasing, I'm sorry, increasing potassium or decreasing sodium.

Ground Truths
Tom Frieden & Eric Topol - Discuss the Formula for Better Health Book

If we just do that a little bit across all of society, no one's going to notice, but it may prevent thousands or hundreds of thousands of heart attacks and strokes, but the companies that have to change are going to oppose.

Ground Truths
Tom Frieden & Eric Topol - Discuss the Formula for Better Health Book

So this prevention paradox is really important for two reasons.

Ground Truths
Tom Frieden & Eric Topol - Discuss the Formula for Better Health Book

One is

Ground Truths
Tom Frieden & Eric Topol - Discuss the Formula for Better Health Book

It's an example of why we don't see reality so effectively, so accurately.

Ground Truths
Tom Frieden & Eric Topol - Discuss the Formula for Better Health Book

We don't see what's really driving health because we can't see the things that are making a big difference because they're making a little difference for a lot of people.

Ground Truths
Tom Frieden & Eric Topol - Discuss the Formula for Better Health Book

But that has a political corollary, which means...

Ground Truths
Tom Frieden & Eric Topol - Discuss the Formula for Better Health Book

Basically, you're going to have tobacco, lead, food, alcohol, the polluting industries, a very concentrated and powerful opposition to benefits that will be for everyone diffusely.

Ground Truths
Tom Frieden & Eric Topol - Discuss the Formula for Better Health Book

So public health...

Ground Truths
Tom Frieden & Eric Topol - Discuss the Formula for Better Health Book

has the odds stacked against it.

Ground Truths
Tom Frieden & Eric Topol - Discuss the Formula for Better Health Book

We're always going to have to fight uphill.

Ground Truths
Tom Frieden & Eric Topol - Discuss the Formula for Better Health Book

We're always going to have to say, listen, this is good for everyone a little bit and bad for a few groups a lot, and we're going to have to mitigate those few groups and organize the people who benefit from it because the prevention paradox is a very important concept.