Tom Friedman
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So that was the theme of my column, you know, that they have massively digitized. It's a cashless society now. You have beggars with a QR code in their begging bowl. I went with my colleague, Keith Bradshaw, to Zeker, one of their new car companies.
So that was the theme of my column, you know, that they have massively digitized. It's a cashless society now. You have beggars with a QR code in their begging bowl. I went with my colleague, Keith Bradshaw, to Zeker, one of their new car companies.
We went to the design lab, watched a designer doing a 3D model of one of their new cars, putting it in different contexts, desert, rainforest, beach, different weather conditions. And we asked him, what software are you using? We thought it was just some traditional CAD design. He said, it's open source AI software. 3D design tool.
We went to the design lab, watched a designer doing a 3D model of one of their new cars, putting it in different contexts, desert, rainforest, beach, different weather conditions. And we asked him, what software are you using? We thought it was just some traditional CAD design. He said, it's open source AI software. 3D design tool.
He said what used to take him three months, he now does in three hours. Three months to three hours. Because they have such a digital connected system, you just take that hypodermic needle, fill it with AI, and inject it into it, and it can optimize so many things. And it's for all these reasons that I'm worried about the bifurcated world. I'm worried about that.
He said what used to take him three months, he now does in three hours. Three months to three hours. Because they have such a digital connected system, you just take that hypodermic needle, fill it with AI, and inject it into it, and it can optimize so many things. And it's for all these reasons that I'm worried about the bifurcated world. I'm worried about that.
That world is not going to be at all stable or at all prosperous in anywhere near the last 40 years. And so if I have a choice, my choice is to argue, and I don't care if I'm the only one arguing for it, that we and China are are going to have to get together and actually be the partners that create an architecture for this.
That world is not going to be at all stable or at all prosperous in anywhere near the last 40 years. And so if I have a choice, my choice is to argue, and I don't care if I'm the only one arguing for it, that we and China are are going to have to get together and actually be the partners that create an architecture for this.
Otherwise, we're going to just keep racing each other in some kind of crazy AI version of nuclear, probably bankrupt ourselves in doing it. And this gets to my gut feeling about the whole world we're going into once we get to AGI, Ezra, which is that I think to manage this world, climate,
Otherwise, we're going to just keep racing each other in some kind of crazy AI version of nuclear, probably bankrupt ourselves in doing it. And this gets to my gut feeling about the whole world we're going into once we get to AGI, Ezra, which is that I think to manage this world, climate,
AI and disorder, we are going to have to learn to collaborate as a species to a degree that we have never collaborated before. I am a big believer in my friend Dov Seidman's argument that interdependence is no longer our choice, it's our condition. The only question is, will we have healthy interdependencies or unhealthy interdependencies?
AI and disorder, we are going to have to learn to collaborate as a species to a degree that we have never collaborated before. I am a big believer in my friend Dov Seidman's argument that interdependence is no longer our choice, it's our condition. The only question is, will we have healthy interdependencies or unhealthy interdependencies?
But we are going to rise together or we're going to fall together. But baby, whatever we're doing, we're doing it together. That is my view.
But we are going to rise together or we're going to fall together. But baby, whatever we're doing, we're doing it together. That is my view.
Look, let's go back to what would you be doing if you were serious on trade? The first thing you would be doing is saying to the Chinese, you now manufacture about a third of all products in the world. That is not sustainable. You can't make everything for everyone. You have got to leaven out your economy to be retired in China to get like a $5 a month pension.
Look, let's go back to what would you be doing if you were serious on trade? The first thing you would be doing is saying to the Chinese, you now manufacture about a third of all products in the world. That is not sustainable. You can't make everything for everyone. You have got to leaven out your economy to be retired in China to get like a $5 a month pension.
And you've got to be using that energy domestically and buying more from others. The conversation has to start there. They are making too much and we are consuming too much, Ezra. So why don't we then get our friends and sit down with China as a united front, the European Union, Korea, Singapore, Japan, the Philippines, and make it the world against China
And you've got to be using that energy domestically and buying more from others. The conversation has to start there. They are making too much and we are consuming too much, Ezra. So why don't we then get our friends and sit down with China as a united front, the European Union, Korea, Singapore, Japan, the Philippines, and make it the world against China
On this issue, you would have told them over the next three years, we're going to gradually be raising tariffs 15, 20, 30% each year. So you can know what's coming, but we're going to keep doing that as a collective. And then behind that wall, you would be offering them, one, the opportunity to invest in America.
On this issue, you would have told them over the next three years, we're going to gradually be raising tariffs 15, 20, 30% each year. So you can know what's coming, but we're going to keep doing that as a collective. And then behind that wall, you would be offering them, one, the opportunity to invest in America.