Tom Hardin

Like, you know, if you're not good at this, Tom, we can just arrest you.

You know, you're like, all right.

So give me another chance.

There was no training at the Wharton school of business on wearing a wire.

Maybe there should be.

So I'm like, all right, let's try it again.

Let's have a phone call with this guy.

Because I left it at that.

At least let's have a follow-up phone call.

I had a follow-up phone call and talk a little bit more.

And the guy on the phone call says, okay, you're asking me about Cisco systems.

I actually have a relative there in finance that gives me information because I was telling him about all my sources.

And then the conversation, they listen to what they're like.

Yeah, that's massive, right?

And what you're going to do here, Tom, is you're going to stop talking to this guy.

We're going to take care of it.

So this sort of situation happened all of 2008, 2009, where it was these meetings with people of interest.

I'm the young guy interviewing for a job.

And by the way, how do you insider trade?

And so I got comfortable with that silence.