Tom Hardin

That was the mortgage-backed securities, which we talked about.

But anybody going to trial was like, oh, you know, the fact pattern didn't matter.

You're a Wall Street guy.

We hate you.

And so she was pretty tough on people.

So we thought I'd make it a few months or whatever.

And so...

Eventually, they asked me to cooperate on two friends that I had tipped on the Kronos deal.

I said, I'm drawing the line there.

And they're like, oh, that's risky, Tom.

And basically, they're like, we're done with you.

Tomorrow, your name's coming out.

So the New York Times ran the story, Tipper X is Tom Harden.

The Wall Street Journal made it a front page paper story.

I forgot to mention I had left my firm a few months before.

I thought it might happen any day, so I didn't want to be working.

there so i knew it would be a bad day for me and for my wife obviously same last name so they released your name because i drew the line at two friends that they wanted me to cooperate on okay i felt i had done enough at that point i the way i rationalized the cooperation was like i'm getting you the worst of the worst right hopefully i can save these two guys i was gonna say what like yeah but even saying that

And those two guys actually were never charged.

They actually ended up having very successful businesses, multimillionaires.

So I think they know, but for the grace of God, I'm in this situation and they're,