Tom Hardin

And me as the young employee, not asking clarifying questions, do we mean anything goes or am I going to start to dig into what we know the competition is doing?

Like I didn't ask anything.

I just assumed, all right, if I was to get inside information, I'll probably do it because he said anything goes.

So only a few more months after he's in my office,

I get a phone call from a woman who worked for a guy named Raj Rajaratnam.

So people look him up.

He's probably one of the most famous guys we talked about who's later charged for insider trading.

And I think he was sentenced to 11 years later.

She worked for him.

And so I knew her through the industry, as I know other analysts at this time.

We talk about stock ideas.

I suspected she was probably insider trading.

So the way it works is you wouldn't give me an insider stock tip unless you knew that I could give you something back, like a quid pro quo or reciprocation.

Otherwise, why would you...

share the information with me.

It's like, Oh, because you're my friend.

Like there's probably some back and forth.

That's how it happened.

So she calls me and she says, Tom, you know, you'd made me a lot of money over the last few years on these great ideas, these longer term ideas I mentioned that I was working on.

She's like, I've got something for you, but you have to promise me you can't tell anybody.