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Tom Holland

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The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

Yeah.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

And presumably shares Atahualpa's contempt for what Cuzco represents.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

I'm sure.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

So in a sense, maybe the Spaniards are doing dirty work that he can't actually do.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

I suppose, maybe.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

Because I cannot comprehend how they would be allowed to do this otherwise.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

And Pizarro is part of that chivalric culture where ransoms are taken for granted.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

And he is so hit the jackpot with this one.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

Billion, zillion, trillion.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

And Tom, what about Diego Almagro, who's turned up and has been systematically frozen out?

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

Yeah, so the cannibals are coming.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

But I guess ultimately the issue comes down to, are they likely to survive if Atahualpa is dead?

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

Or if they release him, can they trust him to be their protector?

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

Is there not a kind of legal dimension to this?

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

Because we've talked throughout how legalistic

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

the spaniards are yes his entire governorship depends on royal approval yes and killing an emperor who you promised life to i mean it's not a good look is it from the perspective of the spanish court yeah i mean it may not just be kind of humanitarian instincts it may be a genuine anxiety that he's torn between kind of legalistic imperatives and his sense of what would be practically the best thing to do which would be to kill him that's absolutely right i think um

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

And the irony there is that he's doing that to preserve his supernatural potency in the kingdom of the gods.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

So he's buried, isn't he, in the local church?

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

Yes.

The Rest Is History
646. The Fall of the Incas: Death to the Emperor (Part 3)

But there are stories that...