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Tom Holland

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The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

Your glory matters less to me, he told Scipio, than the welfare of our city.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

If you really want to destroy Hannibal, then go to Brutium and fight him there, which is, I mean, a very stinging rebuke.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

And I think it's clearly animated by a kind of personal animus, as well as anxiety about strategy.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

And I think it portrays

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

What right from the beginning of Scipio's career has been an anxiety on the part of conservative elements in the Senate about his character.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

It's not just that he's been held king, but that he is incredibly popular, both with his troops and with the mass of the Roman people.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

So in Spain, in the wake of his great victories...

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

His soldiers had taken to hailing him as Imperator, which is a word that means general, but which in the long run will become the title that Augustus claims and which gives us our title of emperor.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

So it doesn't have that connotation at this point.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

But nevertheless, it's a straw in the wind.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

I mean, no one has been hailed in this way before.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

And so senators back in Rome are anxious about this.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

And they're also anxious about the fact that he's become consul when he's only 30 and you're meant to be 40.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

And essentially he's been swept to power on a great wave of popular enthusiasm.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

And so there's a sort of nervousness, what will he do with this power, I think.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

But Scipio, he's not having any of this.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

And

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

He throws Fabius's criticisms back in his face.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

And he says that if you block my intention to invade Africa, then I am going to turn to the people and I will get them to force this strategy through.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

You know, you, Fabius, and all your conservative allies in the Senate, you will be publicly humiliated.

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