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Tom Holland

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The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

Neither of them will command armies ever again.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

But Hannibal, I mean, he remains the dominating figure in the Carthaginian state.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

And he actually proves very impressive as a civilian leader.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

He streamlines the finances in Carthage.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

There's kind of endless fraud, embezzlement and so on.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

And he appreciates that Carthage is going to need every last bit of coin that it can scrounge together.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

And he also democratizes the Carthaginian government.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

So he is essentially a populist.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

He's not popular with his fellow Carthaginian aristocrats, but he's very, very popular with the mass of the Carthaginian people.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

And so he introduces reforms that are designed to weaken the hold of the Carthaginian aristocracy on the justice system.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

And Simon Hornblower, a great ancient historian, author of a brilliant book,

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

dual biography of hannibal and scipio describes an energetic left-wing innovator left-wing innovator the tony ben of uh wow of carthaginian history um i mean obviously this means that loads of his his fellow senators have even more reason now to loathe him i mean not only are they jealous of him but they they're resentful of him that he's um kind of trying to undermine their power but you know he remains massively popular with the carthaginian people and so for now

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

He's trailing clouds of glory.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

And he is given a stupefying succession of honours.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

So he's given a triumph.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

Interesting that he doesn't insist that Hannibal walks in that triumph.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

It reflects the fact that Scipio continues to respect Hannibal and that treating Hannibal with respect in a way burnishes his own glory.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

Because if you humiliate Hannibal, then in a sense, you're downgrading him as an enemy.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

So I think that's probably what's been going on in Scipio's mind.

The Rest Is History
642. Rome’s Greatest Enemy: Bloodbath in Africa (Part 3)

Anyway, he has his triumph.

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