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Tom Holland

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The Rest Is History
668. Greece vs Persia: The Rise of the First Superpower (Part 1)

And I think this is the moment when the Athenians realize, actually, you know, this isn't

The Rest Is History
668. Greece vs Persia: The Rise of the First Superpower (Part 1)

These aren't a bunch of women, even though they may wear trousers.

The Rest Is History
668. Greece vs Persia: The Rise of the First Superpower (Part 1)

These are terrifying fighters.

The Rest Is History
668. Greece vs Persia: The Rise of the First Superpower (Part 1)

And the cavalry in particular, Greece is not a land that encourages the use of cavalry, whereas the flat plateau of Iran absolutely encourages the use of cavalry.

The Rest Is History
668. Greece vs Persia: The Rise of the First Superpower (Part 1)

Essentially, the heavy infantry that forms a Greek army, hoplites they're called, people with the hopla, the heavy kit.

The Rest Is History
668. Greece vs Persia: The Rise of the First Superpower (Part 1)

If they get caught in open land by Persian cavalry, they are toast.

The Rest Is History
668. Greece vs Persia: The Rise of the First Superpower (Part 1)

And this is pretty much what happens now.

The Rest Is History
668. Greece vs Persia: The Rise of the First Superpower (Part 1)

The Athenian force is very brutally savaged.

The Rest Is History
668. Greece vs Persia: The Rise of the First Superpower (Part 1)

Those who survive get back to their ships and they say, we are out of here.

The Rest Is History
668. Greece vs Persia: The Rise of the First Superpower (Part 1)

we're not sticking around, you've basically lied to us, they tell Aristagoras, and Aristagoras is kind of begging them not to go.

The Rest Is History
668. Greece vs Persia: The Rise of the First Superpower (Part 1)

But the Athenians say, no, we're off, and they sail back across the Aegean, and they ignore all future appeals.

The Rest Is History
668. Greece vs Persia: The Rise of the First Superpower (Part 1)

And I think that their plan is basically

The Rest Is History
668. Greece vs Persia: The Rise of the First Superpower (Part 1)

to hope that the Persians will forget all about it and they will pretend that it never happened.

The Rest Is History
668. Greece vs Persia: The Rise of the First Superpower (Part 1)

It's like that scene in Seinfeld where George announces that he's leaving and then realises he's made a terrible mistake and just goes back in and tries to pretend that it had never happened.

The Rest Is History
668. Greece vs Persia: The Rise of the First Superpower (Part 1)

I think that is basically the strategy, to pretend that it had never happened.

The Rest Is History
668. Greece vs Persia: The Rise of the First Superpower (Part 1)

And to begin with, it looks a reasonable strategy because actually the Persian focus is very much on crushing the Ionians.

The Rest Is History
668. Greece vs Persia: The Rise of the First Superpower (Part 1)

They are the ones who are the open rebels.

The Rest Is History
668. Greece vs Persia: The Rise of the First Superpower (Part 1)

It takes them four years.

The Rest Is History
668. Greece vs Persia: The Rise of the First Superpower (Part 1)

Of course, when victory finally comes, it is predictably merciless.

The Rest Is History
668. Greece vs Persia: The Rise of the First Superpower (Part 1)

In 494, the Ionian fleet is destroyed off an island called Lade, which is an island just outside Miletus.