Tom Holland
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Appearances Over Time
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is summoning his people to one of the most memorable endeavors in the whole of world history.
And it's the kind of scene that maybe as a child, you have a book of world history and you read about it and you think, wow, that's mad.
That couldn't possibly have happened.
And that is exactly what happened to me.
I had a book of world history and there was Atahualpa with Francisco Pizarro
in a kind of very cool hat and a beard.
They were chatting away and they're in this room and there's this kind of piles of gold mounting up.
And on the room, there is a white line that's been drawn around it.
And you realize that Atahalpa has to get enough gold to reach that white line.
And Dominic, I have never forgotten it because the jeopardy is immense, isn't it?
Yeah.
If he doesn't get enough gold to reach that white line, he's going to die.
If he does get enough gold to reach that white line, well...
And Huascar is in a cage, isn't he, at this point, being brought from Cusco to where Atahualpa is.
People watching on YouTube will be able to see that.
But I mean, that makes him sound very naive.
Yeah.
But you can understand why he would have no comprehension of what Europe is or any of that.
Yeah.
But you can see reasons why, from his point of view, this is a shrewd policy.