Tom Keene

So if you're halfway through the book, he sold the movie, right?

Yeah, exactly.

DiCaprio's playing.

I mean, it's a gloomy book.

It's shockingly gloomy.

I got eight other questions.

I got to squeeze this in to be responsible.

Orzag and Posen creating a firestorm with an idea of resilient higher rates or even driving higher rates, somewhat due to the surprise of higher wages.

Writing this up at the Peterson Institute.

Do you and PIMCO worry about price down, yield up?

I am begging, when you get through the doom loop, when I get through the doom loop, I would be honored to have you and Prasad in the same studio together.

It would be like a service to a lot of people thinking about this.

His public service to the nation at the Federal Reserve System, Richard Clarida, he is Global Economic Advisor at PIMCO.

You know, there was a gold question.

It's great.

He doesn't have Krugerrands in the drawer.

He's got the Jerry Garcia commemorative gold coins in the drawer.

So way looser.

There's no question about that.

But it was really interesting to see the nuances of the market away from the things we usually quote.