Tom Morris

You've got a legal background.

Is your advice to Zach Butters and Port Adelaide to appeal?

I'm trying desperately to continually take the legal hat off.

Oh, look, they'll, they'll consider it's hard without having seen the reasons and, and our team and,

Our legal team, I spoke to both Zach and Matthew Richardson last night and I made it really clear that they're going to have great legal support.

But if there's anything our team can do to help them, we will.

And I expect our guys will have a look at the reasons today and form some thoughts.

And if they've got some ideas about a way to run appeal, we'll certainly play that role.

Should a tribunal member be on the tribunal call while he's driving and making a determination that has significant impact on someone's life?

I think we're a really professional game and we need to make sure that every element of that reflects it.

So that's a no.

The last question I have on this regarding Zach Butters is, are you surprised that it's taken this long to get the findings back from the tribunal?

We still don't have them and it's 9.17am the next morning.

Yeah, I think ideally we'd have the reasons pretty shortly after.

I expect, I actually don't know this, but I know from my previous time at North Melbourne, quite often the AFL will be relatively flexible in the consideration of those decisions and the timelines for appeal.

I'd like to think that given there's a delay on the reasons that that would play out here.

Yeah, ideally we get the reasons quickly, but as long as it doesn't have a negative impact on the rights of the player, I think we can work with that.

And last one on this story.

So you're the Players Association boss, but Rob Kerr is the Umpires Association boss.

Do you speak to him about the dynamic in this situation?