Tom Morris

And it didn't result in the ultimate success.

Now, the next case study will be Toby Green.

Does Toby Green want to be a giant to the core of his being, to the last of his days, or does he want to go and have a look at it?

It's totally his choice.

But champions, they find a way to work this journey.

Zach's conversation, that's not the same conversation.

Because he's not a champion.

No, he's not a champion.

He's not a two-time Brown Loan medalist.

There's a difference.

There's a difference between champions and good to great players.

Cripps is a champion and he's a Carlton champion.

But on that premise, you don't get the Shane Crawford moment where you live the whole journey and on the last day, on the last day it happens.

That's what the romance of footy is.

That's what folklore is, is to see it through either to its bitter end or to its glorious end.

But when you are committed as a true champion of the game and a champion of the club, we are way too casual on the outside around that.

We're not American sport.

We prove that over and over again.

Maybe, but only in very small instances.

Well, it happens more.