Tom Morris

And I know Caddy loves James Hurd as well.

Don't ask me how, because he's young, but I know he loves James Hurd or the idea of James Hurd.

I don't think Brad Scott's relationship with Zach Merritt was tenable beyond this year.

That's not the reason that Merritt wanted to go, but I don't think it was going to survive.

So now that he's gone, I think everything's on the table.

So how's that trio going to work to be the next coach if they need to be all three?

Why is that?

I just don't think that's rational.

That's why Brad Scott didn't rate him as a coach because he hasn't been in the system for five years since the Gold Coast Suns.

Did he?

Anyone can do it.

I've got a question for you both.

Do you think that if Essendon will now bring in a new coach, when they bring in a new coach, will change their list management plan or strategy, or are they still long-term?

Are they still five, seven years away?

And Kingy always says the rebuild coach never survives.

So the rebuild coach comes in.

You think they're rebuilding?

Well, they think they're rebuilding.

It's a fair payout, isn't it, with several years left on that deal.

And I think they persist with him with the new coach.