Tom Morris

that you speak of.

And I just wonder whether those programs have been available to Lance Collard and others who've been in the same situations.

And they were hugely beneficial to me.

They weren't just a module where you go on for 45 minutes and tick a few multiple choice boxes.

It took me literally hundreds of hours to go through it and learn and educate myself on where I went wrong.

And I just hope Lance Collard has the same things available to him.

Paul, appreciate your call.

Thanks for jumping on.

Let's go to Albert in Essendon.

Albert, welcome to the show.

Hi, Tom.

Just quickly, if I make a few points.

Firstly, the umpire had no way of knowing the audio device he was wearing.

He didn't capture what Butters said.

He's acted thinking that possibly there's a chance that it has been recorded.

So I believe that the umpire heard it, and I believe that Butters said it.

Now, I say that not lightly, but isn't Butters one of the most fine players in the competition at the moment?

And it would be reasonable to suggest, therefore, that he can't control his emotions or his anger in the heat of battle on the field.

And this is just another example of that.

Having said that, I do believe the tribunal have acted inappropriately.