Tom Morris

And I think that's something that we're really keen to see adopted here.

I think there's an opportunity for us to enhance the way we navigate these really challenging situations.

Lance, clearly...

you know, he's, he's maintained his innocence.

Um, there's obviously contrary evidence to that.

Um, however, like it's disappointing that his, his, um, his perspective hasn't been adopted by the tribunal.

Um, however, um, it's, it's actually more about how we're addressing holistically these challenges as opposed to just getting to the end and the, and the disciplining and

section so there's broader issues here but just a couple of quick ones on lance collard and the tribunal spoke about his uh or his difficult upbringing you know the the notion of or the reality of um domestic violence on the home front um no male role model in his life um he's had to travel from where he grew up to play for st kilda he's now living with nasai wangane miller how difficult his life has been compared to let's say the two vfl players that made the allegations um against him

Have you spoken to Lance and how's he going?

Yeah, I haven't spoken directly.

I've reached out to Lance and I know the team's had some correspondence with him previously.

We've been talking a lot to the club and people around him.

You know, my understanding is he's, you know...

whether devastated is too strong a word, but like he's deeply impacted obviously by this outcome.

Um, and, and given he's, um, he's gone, gone back to WA to spend some time with family.

I haven't been able to have a chat to him yet.

Um, but, um, yeah, so I think we've got an adversarial approach and it's, I think the tribunal in, um, in its decisions last night identified that when you've got, um,

two versions of events.

It's not a great place to start from when dealing with really challenging issues that the game is facing, whether that be homophobia or racism or otherwise.

And I think that adversarial approach hasn't served the purposes of anyone in this process.