Tom Morris

So sometimes you'll get a little bit of outside noise, but in that instance, it's not designed for that.

So that's why it probably didn't pick it up.

And the third thing was, did you end up, you know, last night on 360 where Ray's Ray brought up that a journo come up to him during the game?

Yes, that's something that I've been discussing with people behind the scenes this morning.

We'll play that soon.

So stay tuned, Jade, and we'll get to that audio in a few minutes' time and then we'll discuss that.

I appreciate your call.

Three very valid points.

Let's go to James in queue.

Morning, James.

That's a valid point with Foote.

And I have asked Rob Kerr, who's the AFL Umpires Association boss, to come on for a chat.

He hasn't got back to me yet, but hopefully we can get him on today or tomorrow.

I said yesterday, James, on air, that I know Nick Foote personally.

and I really like Nick Foote, and I really trust Nick Foote.

I think he's a good man, and I think he's a hugely successful umpire as well.

He's umpired a grand final, 270 games.

You could argue he's in the best two or three umpires in the sport, not just in terms of decision-making, but also his manner with the players.

So I trust Nick Foote, but I also know people who know Zach Butters really well.

I've never met him personally myself, and I'm entirely inclined to think that Zach Butters believes he's telling the truth as well.