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The David Frum Show
Trump’s War With Iran and a New Danger at Home

The other day, I put up on social media a screenshot of Ronald Reagan, who went on television in prime time from the Oval Office to address the American people in 1986 about a one-night strike on Qaddafi, on a nation of 7.5 million people.

The David Frum Show
Trump’s War With Iran and a New Danger at Home

We have gone to war against 92 million people

The David Frum Show
Trump’s War With Iran and a New Danger at Home

with an eight-minute video of grandpa in his silly hat.

The David Frum Show
Trump’s War With Iran and a New Danger at Home

So again, my answer to the steel man case is, I grant you everything that this is a terrible regime, it should be gone, but you cannot defend the way this is being done.

The David Frum Show
Trump’s War With Iran and a New Danger at Home

And in the end, if the Iranian people

The David Frum Show
Trump’s War With Iran and a New Danger at Home

are again destroyed by their own government, that blood is gonna be on our hands because we baited them into it.

The David Frum Show
Trump’s War With Iran and a New Danger at Home

Then I'll get off this soapbox, David, but one thing that really bothered me is CENTCOM and the White House both saying, lay down your, saying to the Iraqi, the Iranian government and the Iranian security and military forces, lay down your arms, surrender.

The David Frum Show
Trump’s War With Iran and a New Danger at Home

Surrender to home.

The David Frum Show
Trump’s War With Iran and a New Danger at Home

There's nobody there.

The David Frum Show
Trump’s War With Iran and a New Danger at Home

They're not, to ask Iranian cops

The David Frum Show
Trump’s War With Iran and a New Danger at Home

forget about the IRGC or the real heavies.

The David Frum Show
Trump’s War With Iran and a New Danger at Home

Asking any local security forces to lay down their weapons, you might as well ask them to blow their own brains out.

The David Frum Show
Trump’s War With Iran and a New Danger at Home

It's ironic, right, that Hegseth says, we're not like these previous ones, but as you say, Rumsfeld on steroids.

The David Frum Show
Trump’s War With Iran and a New Danger at Home

Trump loathes Barack Obama, and yet his strategy here seems to be exactly what Obama did

The David Frum Show
Trump’s War With Iran and a New Danger at Home

minus a few more allies in Libya.

The David Frum Show
Trump’s War With Iran and a New Danger at Home

I'm having flashbacks now because these were the same arguments that I had and I'm sure you had back during the second Gulf War, where I did say, I admitted, I said, look, I don't know what comes after Saddam, but it has to be better than Saddam.

The David Frum Show
Trump’s War With Iran and a New Danger at Home

Chaos would be better than Saddam because of WMD and, you know, terrorism and all the things that I said.

The David Frum Show
Trump’s War With Iran and a New Danger at Home

And I admit it.

The David Frum Show
Trump’s War With Iran and a New Danger at Home

I said, you know, I can't I couldn't really imagine things getting much worse.

The David Frum Show
Trump’s War With Iran and a New Danger at Home

And then we made it worse.