Tom Papa

Yeah, clams and you can go.

grilled jambalaya or you could have like just you know the the fried stuff it was just a staple and they're closing down after like 25 years and the farewell on the website said something to the effect of we'd love to we loved we were closing down it was a wonderful experience we loved feeding you and uh interacting with all of the people in the community well most of you

That's great.

And, you know, that part of it of having to deal with people's demands is so, that's got to crush you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But people have gotten so specific about their wants and their, right, all it takes is being online behind someone at a Starbucks or whatever and there's 25 people behind them and

Very, very solitary.

Oh, really?

And then... You didn't have people around you that you were doing all that with?

Really?

I had a Xerox machine.

What was it like working for The Times?

And I got to do that.

And that was really cool.

It is cool.

It seems like your story, you kind of had that community kind of

I don't want to say, I don't know what your hair was like back then, but a little bit more of a hippie attitude.

And that you were able to get that platform and still talk about things that were meaningful.

My hair was short, but it was long 50 years ago.

Yeah, yeah.