Tom Papa

Bitmans.

To be able to do this and provide and give people this great stuff without...

Having to be there at 2 in the morning and see people face-to-face is pretty great.

We had this great down at the Jersey Shore where we spent time with family.

There was this great seafood place.

It was a takeout place, jammed and just flying.

It was great.

Fried clams kind of thing.

Yeah, clams and you can go.

grilled jambalaya or you could have like just you know the the fried stuff it was just a staple and they're closing down after like 25 years and the farewell on the website said something to the effect of we'd love to we loved we were closing down it was a wonderful experience we loved feeding you and uh interacting with all of the people in the community well most of you

That's great.

And, you know, that part of it of having to deal with people's demands is so, that's got to crush you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But people have gotten so specific about their wants and their, right, all it takes is being online behind someone at a Starbucks or whatever and there's 25 people behind them and

Very, very solitary.

Oh, really?

And then... You didn't have people around you that you were doing all that with?

Really?

I had a Xerox machine.

What was it like working for The Times?