Tommy Vietor (interviewer) / also appears as host lines

I guess I'm just still not there on the solution.

Like is Barry Weiss viewed as like a Trump whisperer that can get deals through the FCC or whatever, right?

Like a lot of the reporting is focused on kind of coverage about Israel generally being a big point of tension between the new ownership and let's say 60 Minutes.

But I just can't tell how central this is to the acquisition itself.

Yeah.

Do you have a prediction for how it's going to go?

Any sense of how this is being received internally?

Yeah, no, look, I want CBS News to succeed generally.

I really had not thought of it that way.

This is being first mate or captain on an iceberg or on a ship hitting an iceberg.

That does suck.

When Barry Weiss quit the New York Times, she cited bullying by colleagues.

She said the New York Times had become an illiberal environment.

She said there was a, quote, civil war inside the New York Times between the mostly young wokes and the mostly 40-plus liberals.

You worked at the New York Times from 2020 to 2022.

Was it illiberal?

Was Michael Barbaro bullying you in the lunchroom?

What was the scene there?

It's interesting, I mean, look, what I'm taking, what I'm inferring from your very delicate answer is that you saw some illiberalness, you saw some cruelty maybe in this, like, it's just interesting with some people that radicalizes them.

And then there's people like Matthew Iglesias over at Vox who kind of just tweets through the most vicious attacks on a daily basis.