Tommy Vietor

It's probably unique to them, right?

They're big, larger than life people.

But Trump and the conservative media, they love to beat up on California, right?

Fox News all day is like some video of something that happened on the street.

So I don't think the Trump attacks end when Gavin is gone.

How would you manage that relationship differently than him or continuity, whichever?

Yeah.

My last question for you is about housing, which is in California, we have something called Prop 13.

sure you know about it.

Listeners naturally don't.

It was passed in the late 70s.

Younger Californians mostly hate it because it means that new homebuyers pay much higher property taxes on the identical house to someone who bought it 40 years earlier.

You can correct me if I'm getting the details or I'm shorthanding this.

It creates this general unfairness and it can lock up housing supply because if you're a senior, you're not going to downsize if that means you're going to pay a much higher property tax.

You want to lock in that privileged tax rate.

Over time, Prop 13 has gutted revenue for

California's public schools and like smart kind of wonky people.

I know almost literally we'll blame it for like all of California's problems, right?

There are a number of books to that.

Yes.