Tommy Vietor

OK, so, Ben, let's pause there.

Just get your reaction, you know, sort of what you've seen so far and in sort of events in the world and also Trump speech.

What do you make of it?

But if those Iranians are massacred again, if it turns into a civil war, there's no plan B. Yeah, I mean, it just it's not clear to me that Trump realizes that he started something that he's not able to stop because Trump is doing a round of interviews.

He talked like NBC, Axios, a bunch of other outlets.

He told Axios he has several off ramps to end the conflict.

One of the quotes was, I can go long and take over the whole thing or end it in two or three days and tell the Iranians everything.

See you in a few years.

If you start rebuilding any case, it will take them several years to recover from this attack.

And it's like, I mean, first of all, no, you can't take over the entire country unless you send in troops to occupy the country.

And if that's on the table, you should probably tell us.

Second, like, we don't know really if Trump is actually thinking about off ramps or if Brock reviewed in this five minute call was like, hey, what's your off ramp?

And he was like, I got a bunch of them.

Trump also told Axios that that he asked his team to compile every Iranian linked attack around the world in the last 25 years.

And clearly that was sort of reflected in the speech he made.

But if you have to do that, it seems like you're really struggling to justify why this has to happen now.

And I think all of that just speaks to your point, which is like.

We have no idea what's going to happen next.

This could end quickly or this could go on for a long time.

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