Tommy Vietor

There is an older generation of Americans that was raised at a different time and a different era, a different generation of leadership.

in, in Israel that views Israel very differently.

It's like when you'd always hear Joe Biden talk about gold of my year and this like, you know, beacon of democracy and hope in the middle East in this, you know, like, uh,

the story of this like mighty little country, right?

Like fighting off its opponents.

But I think younger people like just see it very differently.

And I think, you know, you mentioned it earlier, like the tactic, like the ADL and other groups have taken to try to silence debate, I think has been really damaging.

Yeah.

And just like doing this broad brush thing, we're telling everyone that like all anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism is wrong or like passing BDS laws across the country that essentially make speech illegal.

Like why is it that people like you and I can be more critical of the U.S.

government than the Israeli government in certain settings?

And like, by the way, it's not just you and me like having this conversation.

It was Charlie Kirk saying,

And Megyn Kelly had nearly an identical conversation about their frustration with being screamed at or called anti-Semitic if they didn't agree with, you know, 100% of like Netanyahu's line.

And I just think like that's such a bad way to do politics.

You're just going to turn people off.

Yeah, it's just it feels like the two state solution is very far off.

And for all the concern, you know, you and I might have about.

Criticism of Israel veering into anti-Semitism or tropes.

Then you also have Donald Trump speaking for the Knesset, giving Miriam Adelson a shout out, talking about how she's worth $60 billion and how she was the one who got him to move the embassy or to think about the Golan Heights.