Tommy Vietor

And, you know, issues rise and fall, right?

Like the Iran war happens and all of a sudden that spikes in what they're hearing.

But the number one issue, like lingering pervasive issue, is about the integrity of the political system itself.

It's about trust.

And that ranges from corruption.

It's people feeling like politicians lie and they're self-dealing.

It's that the system is corrupted or captured by corporate interests.

And it's just, you know, it's interesting that they're hearing that.

You're hearing the same thing.

Like that is like the mood music.

Interesting.

So we both are in the media world now, but like at heart, we're political hacks who especially focus on messaging and how to go after Trump.

The messaging that resonates with me by my bias, my prior is around corruption because I think the corruption bucket gives you the why.

Right.

It's like it explains why Trump is pushing bad tax policies because his donors want them.

bad foreign policy, crypto, like it can apply to everything.

And I think Senator John Ossoff has been messaging this, and I think in a really effective, interesting way.

We'll drop in a clip here.

Do you think this is effective messaging, what Asaf is saying?

Is this kind of thing like popping in groups?