Tommy Vietor

We can double back on this one.

So we appear to be close to a government shutdown.

On Thursday, Trump's Office of Management and Budget sent a memo to agencies telling them to identify programs and projects and activities that can be permanently eliminated in the event of a shutdown, as opposed to just a temporary furlough.

In other words, they're sort of signaling that they think the shutdown could expedite the Doge efforts that we've all talked about so much.

Do you think that we're going to shut down the government?

And do you think that's the right thing to do?

So, I mean, this this shutdown talk kind of brings me to bigger anxiety I hear from Democrats, which is they feel like Trump poses this existential threat to the fabric of our country, but that the current leaders, the Democratic Party, are not necessarily meeting the moment.

The criticism is like.

They aren't using – the leadership isn't using the little power they have to block enough stuff that Trump is doing.

They feel like leadership is terrible at communicating and that Trump is running circles around us in terms of messaging.

What would you say to those Democrats who are anxious and who frankly want to see younger senators, the next generation of elected officials like yourself –

in leadership roles?

All right, I'll take that as a pump up speech.

I'll stop doom scrolling for that.

Yeah, that's honestly a good note.

You mentioned the corruption of this whole thing.

I think it's the most undercovered story of the administration is the corruption that's happening in plain sight.

I mean, some of it's not in plain sight.

We heard about Tom Homan getting the border czar, getting a kava bag with like 50 grand in it.

Who among us?