Tommy Vitor

No new business cards.

Finally, since I have you,

I'd love to get your take on the situation in Cuba because you and Ben Rhodes led the effort to normalize relations with Cuba during the Obama administration.

So since the raid to capture President Maduro in Venezuela, Cuba has been essentially blockaded.

It is experiencing this horrific fuel shortage, all these blackouts, this economic crisis that's getting worse by the day.

So I'm wondering if you could give us just sort of your sense of the humanitarian situation on the ground in Cuba and whether you think they're close to reaching a breaking point or if there's any sense that like there's cracks that might lead to a leadership change because of this blockade.

Right.

Yeah.

And folks should know, like the, you know, the fuel embargo, the fuel shortages mean more than just not being able to drive around.

It's like water filtration, right?

Power, energy, refrigeration, right?

Like Marco Rubio is single-handedly making – running this policy where the current policy is starve an entire island worth of people.

I mean is that too – is that unfair?

Yeah, it seems just absolutely unsustainable and awful.

And just, you know, obviously, none of us like the Cuban government.

But boy, what the impact on the Cuban people, the kids, innocent families is just it's unimaginable right now.

Yeah, exactly.

Well, Ricardo, thank you so much for doing the show.

I really appreciate it.

It's great to check in with you and talk to you soon.