Tommy Vitor

Well, in a lot of the countries that are involved in the proxy war, we've talked about the UAE and their backing for the RSF.

You talk about Egypt.

These are countries that Trump can pick up the phone.

Definitely, especially the Emiratis.

And madman that he is and say, cut this shit out.

This is a solvable problem in part because of how much external powers drive the proxy fight.

The other piece of this is, which we've talked about,

God bless Jan Egland and the Norwegian Refugee Council and the IRC and these organizations, because USAID would have been marshalling, not only providing the assistance, but marshalling the assistance from other countries, and that's gone now.

So, I mean, if people have resources...

The Norwegian Refugee Council, IRC, Save the Children, the people that have to operate in these spaces, a lot of them took hits from the USAID going away, or a lot of their own governments are cutting funding.

So unfortunately, we're dealing with bigger problems with less resources.

And it could actually end up being worse than that because that's what you can project out based on nutrition and health.

But these wars where, I mean, that's

Often, you know, where you're rushing assistance to, like, it's just not there.

First of all, I just want to point out that our producer, Michael, is very focused on this story almost suspiciously.

I don't know what his ties are to Albertan separatists.

I bet there's some crypto flowing around.

It bears some looking into.

No, I actually think this is a really important story for a couple of reasons.

You remember when Trump got elected,