Tommy Vitor
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I guess it's just a story, Tommy, about...
the unintended consequences of war.
That's just not been my thing.
That'd be tough.
How do you explain that to your cellmate?
Stay back.
I'm very pleased to be joined by Ali Vaez, who's the Iran Project Director at the International Crisis Group and a friend of the pod over here.
Ali, welcome to the show.
All right, so it's been a pretty dizzying few weeks here.
Just to recap, we had massive protests erupt against the Iranian regime.
They felt different.
They were much kind of broader based across the society.
Many factors informing that.
You had President Trump threaten U.S.
military action if people were killed, saying help is on the way.
Thousands of people were subsequently killed.
And the U.S.
took pretty nominal action, you know, some additional sanctions as if that's going to make the difference.
But then he sent this, you know, quote unquote, armada towards Iran.
Seemed like we were ramping back up to strikes.