Tommy

And like much of the Formula One grid and a lot recently, and particularly seems to be Red Bull losing a lot of people.

You know, they've lost many to McLaren.

Obviously, Rob Marshall was a key figure who they lost to McLaren in the first place that many believers kind of turned McLaren's fortune around and why they're so successful.

and were so good to win those championships.

And then, of course, everything of that whole team blowing up anyway with Adrian Newey leaving and Wheatley leaving and Horner being sacked and all this kind of stuff and Marco going.

It is crazy to think it's another huge name.

Well, yeah, I'm sure.

I'm sure Adrian Newey would love that for a Zac Brown, Lawrence Stroll-like character to be the one that's facing all these questions about Aston Martin right now and eases some of that pressure off him.

So, yeah, I do tend to agree with you.

There'll be talk, of course, a lot of people, and we'll get into this later, about does this say anything about Max and what Max's future's going?

Because, of course, this is...

This is GP not joining immediately either as well.

It's him joining for 2028, which is when Max Verstappen's contract ends with Red Bull as well.

Whether you could maybe take that of Max is not going to continue beyond that.

I don't know, but I don't feel like this is a reaction to Max Verstappen news is my initial thought.

I think this can happen anyway, even when they were the amazing team that they were and winning.

They lost Rob Marshall.

This was before the crazy kind of ongoings of the Horner situation.

But even then, after that, you know, Newey's gone, Wheatley's gone, as we mentioned previously.

And...