Tomás Ó Sé

But there's also question marks with, if they don't get those players back, can they progress?

Which is a legitimate question.

But Donegal, it's, I don't know, there's people saying that it was planned what happened against Owen.

I don't think it was.

I don't, I don't,

agree or buy into how you could prepare a team to lose I don't think it's in Jim's Jim McGuinness's psyche and I think on the day they were flat I think everything that went well that could go possibly wrong went wrong and down obviously were fantastic I think in the league final Kerry

Just were very disappointed with their own performance.

But then that set itself up for what happened with Donegal in Ulster and what happened with Kerry in the league final for a cracker in Killarney.

And it had everything.

It absolutely had everything.

I was at the match.

That was one benefit.

of not working, I could just go to the match and chill out and enjoy it and watch it.

It had everything, Joe.

It was brilliant because Kerry actually rattled Donegal in that first half in the way they went after them and pressed them and they were picking off scores.

And I thought it was set up for Kerry to have a right goal off Donegal.

And this is why I'm saying you can't write off Kerry.

If you added the likes of Tom Sullivan, Brian Begley, Gavin White, Joe O'Connor, I'm forgetting somebody, to that line-up, Paul Ganey was missing, you would cause more damage.

And I think they backed themselves.

And Pardee probably wasn't at full tilt on the day as well.