Tony Blinken

You know, this notion of overcapacity where they flood the market with certain products that have been subsidized and otherwise given an unfair advantage, pushing American companies, American products, American workers out of that sector. And it was important to focus on that. But the way you do it really matters. And here's the thing.

If we're dealing with something that China is doing that we don't like and we're doing it alone, we're what, about 20, 25 percent of world GDP. when we're doing it with our European allies, our Asian allies, suddenly we're 50 or 60% of world GDP. That's something that China can't ignore.

If we're dealing with something that China is doing that we don't like and we're doing it alone, we're what, about 20, 25 percent of world GDP. when we're doing it with our European allies, our Asian allies, suddenly we're 50 or 60% of world GDP. That's something that China can't ignore.

If we're dealing with something that China is doing that we don't like and we're doing it alone, we're what, about 20, 25 percent of world GDP. when we're doing it with our European allies, our Asian allies, suddenly we're 50 or 60% of world GDP. That's something that China can't ignore.

But instead of focusing intensely on those areas and on those products where China was trying to get an unfair advantage and lining up allies and partners, to join with us. We've gone at this with a machine gun spraying everything in China, but also our allies and partners, the very people that we need with us to deal effectively with what China's doing. So I think there's clearly a role

But instead of focusing intensely on those areas and on those products where China was trying to get an unfair advantage and lining up allies and partners, to join with us. We've gone at this with a machine gun spraying everything in China, but also our allies and partners, the very people that we need with us to deal effectively with what China's doing. So I think there's clearly a role

But instead of focusing intensely on those areas and on those products where China was trying to get an unfair advantage and lining up allies and partners, to join with us. We've gone at this with a machine gun spraying everything in China, but also our allies and partners, the very people that we need with us to deal effectively with what China's doing. So I think there's clearly a role

for focused, targeted tariffs, for example, on certain Chinese products, especially in areas where they're trying to dominate the sectors of the future in ways that are unfair. Solar panels, electric vehicles, batteries for those vehicles. That's where you want to put the focus. That's what Biden was doing.

for focused, targeted tariffs, for example, on certain Chinese products, especially in areas where they're trying to dominate the sectors of the future in ways that are unfair. Solar panels, electric vehicles, batteries for those vehicles. That's where you want to put the focus. That's what Biden was doing.

for focused, targeted tariffs, for example, on certain Chinese products, especially in areas where they're trying to dominate the sectors of the future in ways that are unfair. Solar panels, electric vehicles, batteries for those vehicles. That's where you want to put the focus. That's what Biden was doing.

But now in broadening this out and basically having what amounts almost to a trade embargo with China and doing it in a way that's alienating our allies and partners who are not with us, We're pushing them toward each other, away from the United States, and maybe even toward China.

But now in broadening this out and basically having what amounts almost to a trade embargo with China and doing it in a way that's alienating our allies and partners who are not with us, We're pushing them toward each other, away from the United States, and maybe even toward China.

But now in broadening this out and basically having what amounts almost to a trade embargo with China and doing it in a way that's alienating our allies and partners who are not with us, We're pushing them toward each other, away from the United States, and maybe even toward China.

And that's simply going to undermine everything that we're trying to do to protect our workers, to protect our companies, to protect our people.

And that's simply going to undermine everything that we're trying to do to protect our workers, to protect our companies, to protect our people.

And that's simply going to undermine everything that we're trying to do to protect our workers, to protect our companies, to protect our people.

I think they have the ability in many ways to wait us out. They can take more pain by the nature of their system than we can take. And partly that's what they're counting on. So they match the tariffs in a dramatic way. And it's now a little bit of a game of chicken to see who's going to pull their punch first. I hope we can find a way to navigate this in a smart way. Look, Tim, here's the thing.

I think they have the ability in many ways to wait us out. They can take more pain by the nature of their system than we can take. And partly that's what they're counting on. So they match the tariffs in a dramatic way. And it's now a little bit of a game of chicken to see who's going to pull their punch first. I hope we can find a way to navigate this in a smart way. Look, Tim, here's the thing.

I think they have the ability in many ways to wait us out. They can take more pain by the nature of their system than we can take. And partly that's what they're counting on. So they match the tariffs in a dramatic way. And it's now a little bit of a game of chicken to see who's going to pull their punch first. I hope we can find a way to navigate this in a smart way. Look, Tim, here's the thing.

We spent a lot of time talking about de-risking, not decoupling from China. Now that sounds like Diplo speak, but basically it means let's focus on the specific areas where either China is taking unfair advantage of us economically, or where we've got a national security issue or question.