Tony Hawk

And go to the events and, you know, probably places we saw each other where it was like, I'm invited.

I should go, right?

Like, I don't belong in these situations.

And I know fame's not the worst drug, right?

Right.

We know there are plenty of drugs that are true killers.

And so I mistakenly said that at some point, but it's bad.

And if you keep chasing it, it's not going to come.

Sure.

Yeah, in terms of the endorphins, the excitement.

Yeah, and I think it can— And then you try to fulfill that in other ways.

Sure.

And as I kind of got wrapped up in that and definitely—

could recognize something in myself that I didn't like in terms of the choices I was making.

And I just didn't have the tools to make better choices.

And I just, I knew I had to do something about it.

I just knew like I was headed for disaster.

And in a lot of ways, I already was in a disaster because I was just ruining relationships left and right.

And, you know, wasn't connecting with my kids on a level that I felt I should have been or was capable or that where they really wanted to share with me.

And so, yeah, I sought help and everything.